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D3VE A2A heads

Are they any good? Is pump gas O.K.? I thought I had D2VE heads and was told I needed to run racing gas but I found the casting # just below the valve covers. Where do the D#VE heads rank amongst the others?

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I believe the D3ve heads come in right after the D0ve heads and the PI heads (police interceptor)... (those as being the best of the stock heads).. You would have to port the exhaugst side to get rid of the emission bump on the D3's where the D0's don't have it (before emission stuff)... to get any real flow out of them... Pump gas would be fine as long as your compression ratio was under 10.1.. tuned right you could run pump gas on 10.1 CR.
D3's would give you around 9.5 or less depending on if you milled the head or decked the block. I all depends on what you are looking for..
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dang, I know the machine shop did some work to the heads but I don't know what they did, the owner died the day before I picked up my stuff and his son is a huge Chevy guy so he was an ***. Well that was a year ago and the shop is gone so I'll never know what they did. It was my first engine build so I didn't know what I was doing. oh well, live and learn.

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D3 castings when equipped with large valves and proper port work will support 650 HP +. Do not let their appearance or any of the naysayers mislead you.

All passenger car castings have the thermactor bump on both the boss and roof. The thermactor boss on the guide must be knocked down and reshaped to increase cross sectional area in the port proper.

The dove and earlier castings have thermactor boss and roof bumps. starting in 70 the california castings were drilled for emissions reasons.

With a flat top piston at 0 deck the typical 97 cc chamber will net close to 10 to 1 static c/r. Domed pistons can bring that to 10.7 to 1 with a 12 cc dome.

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well, I had the block "decked" (I remember him saying that) and I thought they "shaved" the heads but I'm not sure. I did have to take the heads back and have the pedestals machined to accept studs for my roller rockers. The best I can tell, the motor seems to be very strong, though, i have not done anything substantial with it yet, we'll see how it does in the mud when the Bronco's ready to go. Thanks for the help guys.

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I have a set of D3's that have been on a street engine for 8 years with no problems. The exhaust port was cleaned out and a CJ ex valve was installed. The stock intake valves remain. I have a Keith Black flat top that should put the compression around 10:1. I run an rpm manifold and a .600 hyd roller cam- 228-238 @.050. The engine is now getting a little tired as it's pushing some oil out the back now. The gas we have is 91oct. and no problems at all. The car will run high 11's as daily driven. I have put about 70lbs. of nitrous thru it-(roulette I know)- and with some race gas mixed, a 150-175 shot will put the car in the 10's. I recently bought some BT-chevy heads and will use all the upper valve gear from the d3's on them. I have around $ 1000 in the D3's including machine work and all the parts from the stud girle down. All in all the Ds's flat rock. Although a little faster than mine, all the dart/brodix chevs around town on race gas do respect the pump gas falcon. No joke...Tres

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I have a set of D3's that have been on a street engine for 8 years with no problems. The exhaust port was cleaned out and a CJ ex valve was installed. The stock intake valves remain. I have a Keith Black flat top that should put the compression around 10:1. I run an rpm manifold and a .600 hyd roller cam- 228-238 @.050. The engine is now getting a little tired as it's pushing some oil out the back now. The gas we have is 91oct. and no problems at all. The car will run high 11's as daily driven. I have put about 70lbs. of nitrous thru it-(roulette I know)- and with some race gas mixed, a 150-175 shot will put the car in the 10's. I recently bought some BT-chevy heads and will use all the upper valve gear from the d3's on them. I have around $ 1000 in the D3's including machine work and all the parts from the stud girle down. All in all the Ds's flat rock. Although a little faster than mine, all the dart/brodix chevs around town on race gas do respect the pump gas falcon. No joke...Tres
I like to hear that, sounds impressive, I would like to see it run, nothing like vintage ford iron IMO.

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There are a select group of people that utilise factory iron heads either because of class rule restrictions or simply because they enjoy putting the smack down on the bowtie contingent.

Given the plethora of choices available today, does it make good sense? Probably not for the non class racers however given the potential of all of the iron castings, even the D2VE's, the guys that like to see jaws hit the pavement are out there and doing well.

Properly prepared iron cj heads will support in excess of 850 HP, D0VEs will support over 700 HP with RHP heads making a best of 725, and the D3 castings not too far behind the doves. These numbers are more than enough to place the smack on the bowtie bitches. (forgive me chilly i couldn't help myself). :shock:

Sometimes folks just want to be different dispel the myth that the BBF in factory trim is not a contender. We know better dont we!!!




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I like to hear that, sounds impressive, I would like to see it run, nothing like vintage ford iron IMO.

You can see a video of the car on it's very first pass beating a 427 square port chevelle with a 4spd and slicks. Turn up the volume, it's a great vid. Tres.....

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There are a select group of people that utilise factory iron heads either because of class rule restrictions or simply because they enjoy putting the smack down on the bowtie contingent.

Given the plethora of choices available today, does it make good sense? Probably not for the non class racers however given the potential of all of the iron castings, even the D2VE's, the guys that like to see jaws hit the pavement are out there and doing well.

Properly prepared iron cj heads will support in excess of 850 HP, D0VEs will support over 700 HP with RHP heads making a best of 725, and the D3 castings not too far behind the doves. These numbers are more than enough to place the smack on the bowtie bitches. (forgive me chilly i couldn't help myself). :shock:

Sometimes folks just want to be different dispel the myth that the BBF in factory trim is not a contender. We know better dont we!!!




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I don't get out to the drag strip very often, doesn't help much up here in Central Michigan, their mostly Chevy guys up here, however, the fords that are in the mud bogs and off road competitions do quite well.

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I like to hear that, sounds impressive, I would like to see it run, nothing like vintage ford iron IMO.

You can see a video of the car on it's very first pass beating a 427 square port chevelle with a 4spd and slicks. Turn up the volume, it's a great vid. Tres.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfieXSi_ayE
LMAO, was that your wife screaming her head off??? O.K., how many of you sickos (besides me) clicked on the "Hot wife drinking from a fountain" video, then the "Hot neighbor" video. I stopped there because it started to show XXX videos and I'm at work :shock: :lol: , Very impressive ride though.

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