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Twin turbo 460 parts list

I am new to building turbo charged engines and was wondering if anyone could help me compile a parts list for a small twin turboed 460 any information will be helpful thanks, Colin
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Talking YES

I also have interst in a turbo build. Would like to see a junkyard setup make a bunch of power.

How about some block hugger headers fliped upside down with turbo flanges welded on. 1 turbo on each side (twins) pulling thru a 4 barrel holley per side. Both blow into a 4v intake.

Just take the hood off your Lincoln !!!

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Subscribing to this thread. I am interested in something like this if it was less than $6K...
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turbo size will depend on ultimate power goal.

I would look at the Borg warner series. the s400 is a great base. If you can get the 1.0 AR turbine twins would be great for any big block.
You'll be looking for 50mm waste gates. and at least a 60mm BOV.
Aluminum heads are prefered for heat reasons, but a d3 set would work for low boost situations. Shorties flipped will work great. Smaller primaries will increase spool rate but limit power. 1 5/8 good for 1000, 1 3/4 for 1500 ect

As for fuel delivery Blow through works GREAT. carb companies like C and S, and CSU are your best bets. Draw through can work but aren't the best usually. look for 5K minimum investment going up to 10K easy.

As for intercoolers you get air to air (A2A), air to water (A2W), and chemical.
A2A is great for street cars but are harder to package at BBF levels. A2W works better but is heavier and more expensive. last is meth injection, 50/50 mix with water. Meth can be used with either of the others and increases effectiveness, but can be used alone. it cools and increases octane of the fuel.

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Turbo

What about internals, anything special other than forged everything, and what about compression how low do you go
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i was going to do this.. i already have my motor built. but i decided to fuel inject it before i went blow thru carb and decided to go with 1 larger turbo, if you dont know how to tune a carb i would not reccamend a turbo carb set up. .decided on single mainly because your looking at about twice the cost of turbo.. you have to buy 2 of everything. i had a set of t4 turbos i was going to use but sold them to get a larger 88 mm turbo. or something similar. and they are right .. 5k min and it will prob be more.
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compression depends on fuel and boost... if you want to run pump gas then 7.5-1 with 30psi is about your limit with an intercooler... 8.5 is the most static youd want for forced induction and on pump gas youd be limited to about 10-14psi with a good intercooler... jmo

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I remember an article in a magazine where a guy took a stock 460 '75 or '76 and turned the stock manifolds over and switched them from side to side(outlet was facing up and toward front of engine), used a mid 80's T-bird turbo coupe turbo on each side and passed them through a import intercooler(Saab? maybe) and had it installed in a mid 50's Ford if my memory serves me right. He said that CR was about 8 or 8.5 -1 to allow it to run on pump gas. It didn't make alot of HP (like 370) but it did make gobs of torque, over 650 ft lbs. This is from memory but I'll try to find the article for details. Todd
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I remember an article in a magazine where a guy took a stock 460 '75 or '76 and turned the stock manifolds over and switched them from side to side(outlet was facing up and toward front of engine), used a mid 80's T-bird turbo coupe turbo on each side and passed them through a import intercooler(Saab? maybe) and had it installed in a mid 50's Ford if my memory serves me right. He said that CR was about 8 or 8.5 -1 to allow it to run on pump gas. It didn't make alot of HP (like 370) but it did make gobs of torque, over 650 ft lbs. This is from memory but I'll try to find the article for details. Todd
I remember that article .

A couple questions for the original poster:

1) What are your goals with this build? Is it bragging rights? A certain et? A drag car? A road race car? A specific hp #?

2) What's your budget?

3) Are you starting with any usable parts? ie. Can the rest of the vehicle handle the power from the engine? Transmission? Fuel system? Rear axle? ect

4) What kind of maintanence are you willing to perform?

5) Is this going to be a street/strip? Strip only? Only driving to the local cruise and back? Long road trip (like the Hot Rod Power Tour)?

The answers to those questions will allow members to give you better, more specific recommendations.

Have a good day!
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I would like to make about 800 horsepower with a production block i have the heads an intake and block but as far as anything else to support the engine we will have to build or buy parts wanted to make a wicked little street car just to play with.
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i am also in process of doing something close to this in a fox nothing monsterous just something different and with a lil extra as a street car and sometimes take to track and it be pretty quic. ive heard about the same article and was wondering how much boost 460 stock internals worked dove heads and a cam kit could handle?
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I would like to make about 800 horsepower with a production block i have the heads an intake and block but as far as anything else to support the engine we will have to build or buy parts wanted to make a wicked little street car just to play with.
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I remember that article .

A couple questions for the original poster:

1) So, this is a 100% street car with no track time?

2) What's your budget? $$$

3) Specifically, what parts are you starting with? casting #'s (what heads, intake, and block) EFI, carb'd???

4) What kind of maintanence are you willing to perform? Tear it down every year and check everything out? Or get it running, and not worry about it for 20,000 miles?

5) Only driving to the local cruise and back? Long road trip (like the Hot Rod Power Tour)? This affects the parts selection because it is very, very inconvenient to break down when you're 1,000+ miles from home.
I reworded some of the questions that didn't get answered.

Your build can be accomplished with a variety of parts. The difference between some of these routes can be $1,000's of $$$. Hence, the importance for good answers to my questions.

Have a good day!
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low buck/junkyard options would be the Holset line . . . ran a H1E on my stock shortblock 302 and bought it off ebay for $80. Twins would be killer on a built bbf.
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The article mentioned was in a Hot Rod mag from a number of years ago. The features were on wagons and this engine was in a 58 Mercury wagon. I just had it out but my wife "moved it". Anyway it made over 700 TQ at 1900 RPM's but the fuel system needed to be upgraded and it ran out of gas at the 3500 rpm mark or something. I'll try and find it again and post up the results and parts used. It did have Saab intercoolers and D3 heads flipped manifolds. Very low buck build.

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The article mentioned was in a Hot Rod mag from a number of years ago. The features were on wagons and this engine was in a 58 Mercury wagon. I just had it out but my wife "moved it". Anyway it made over 700 TQ at 1900 RPM's but the fuel system needed to be upgraded and it ran out of gas at the 3500 rpm mark or something. I'll try and find it again and post up the results and parts used. It did have Saab intercoolers and D3 heads flipped manifolds. Very low buck build.
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