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Lately I have been asking for some input on cams and such for my 68 Torino w/460 .030 over. The cam was unanimously considered the MAJOR downfall of my engine combo. Barely larger than stock, 471 lift, hydraulic flat tappet while rest of it was forged dished pistons with valve reliefs, steel crank double keyed for blower and HD ford rods. Energizer roller rockers pushing stock springs. Heads had Manley race duty valves oversized and as far as I could tell the ports had been worked. 6-71 blower pushing 5-7 lbs boost @ 10% under, dual 750 doms.

The rest of the car is full tube chassis, alum interior, full double dragster roll cage, P/G trans w/brake, 9" with strange everything and 33" slicks. Weight was 3,200 without me.

Problem was, no matter how good it wanted to light the tires or how fast it would rev. It left the line like a dog with an even 12 sec pass being its best after 7 passes. Note: I bought the car as it was and it had never been on the road, let alone the track.

So here is the new set up and you can see some before and after pics on my profile page. Until I learn how to post them on here.

Tore down to long block. Cleaning now.

New parts:
Cloyes quick adjust true roller timing set
Crane solid roller, 600 lift w/245 duration @ 50* and 112 lobe separation
Crane Classic mechanical roller lifters
Crane Gold race aluminum wide body rockers
(pushrods to be determined)
Crane dual valve springs w/matching retainers and locks
New valve seals and gasket obviously.

New ENDEREL Birdcatcher injection system complete

Hampton 8-71 Blower


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Nice I'm excited to see this thing getting built. I always liked the 68 torinos. Is it a fastback?

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Yes it is. GT. It was originally a 390 car. Go to my profile and there is a pic of it in my album. I had to delete some pics to add some of the parts swap. I think I am only allowed so many as a non paying member

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That is going to be a sick looking motor hanging out of the hood. I LOVE IT!!

I can't wait to see what you do with it. I'll be following along for sure. Nice job and COOL car!!
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it's actually going to sit a good 10 inches lower than it did with doms and air cleaners! The air cleaners used to be even with the roof. I definitely like the injection look over the carbs. Just hoping it performs as good as everyone says the mechanical injection will. I'm getting to the fun part... Clean parts and assembly

Will update hopefully daily! I have my daughter this week for the last time before school starts. So I don't want to ignore her on her last week.

What are you working on right now? Any projects going? Any pics of any projects or your ride???? Would love to see them!
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it's actually going to sit a good 10 inches lower than it did with doms and air cleaners! The air cleaners used to be even with the roof. I definitely like the injection look over the carbs. Just hoping it performs as good as everyone says the mechanical injection will. I'm getting to the fun part... Clean parts and assembly

Will update hopefully daily! I have my daughter this week for the last time before school starts. So I don't want to ignore her on her last week.

What are you working on right now? Any projects going? Any pics of any projects or your ride???? Would love to see them!
I was just checking back in to see the progress. Having the induction setup sit a little lower will probably be best. Got any pic's of a side profile view of the car before you tore into it? I'd like to check it out. Up even with the top of the roof sounds like it was a bit big. What you are doing should be an improvement.

Below is a link to my build thread in this same section. It is a bit of a project but I've been working on it slowly but surely.

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to answer your question as to the air cleaner hight/side view I found these 2...



Second one is looking down on it but you will still get the idea, lol

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Dude that thing looks sooo awesome!!! Think those carb filters are above the roof line lol.

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Yea...... left turns were fine, but right turns were a bitch! Also mad it hard to see the tree when in left lane at track!!! lol
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Yeah I always thought about that lol. I bet it is. Well I hope you get it all worked out. That thing is gonna be mean when its all tuned in. I'm excited to see what it really can do for you.

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Oh man... I love that thing. It looks fanatstic! My Mustang is cheap and light but your car has character. I'm jealous and I NEED IT!! Can't wait to see a video of it running. Keep us posted on the progress.
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Looking good. Man, that thing is just bad to the bone. Can't wait to see it with the new blower and injection, plus the other updates (camshaft!).

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Well, it's finally going back together!!! So far so good. I had to run to Summit a few more times. Needed a bit longer pushrods and had to go to up to a 3/8 dia to keep rockers centered. I swapped the timing set I just bought for a Cloyes adjustable (at the cam) set. I ran into a little trouble swapping rear springs on heads due to clearance for the tool so I had to get creative. Then I ran into a problem with the rocker studs being too short on the top side and a hair too long in the head. The guide plates were not tight. So those got swapped out too. I also picked up a little something something to help keep the 8-71 blower temps down. You will see it in the pics along with some more notes. Tomorrow I finish valve train and degree the cam in. Then it's all down hill from their right? lol

I think I mentioned that the Hampton intake and blower sat back too far. If I mounted the intake backwards it could work except all the holes for the blower are gone. I was going to do some research for adapter plates to turn a blower around on an intake but am running out of time and patience, WhiteLightning said he might do some looking to see what he can find just as long as I repay his kindness in the way of my extra blower how can you say no to a nice guy like that! Plus he has also been very helpful with his knowledge and suggestions. For that I am truly thankful. And the same goes to all the others who have offered up their time, knowledge and input!!! Thank You!!!
LOLOLOLOLOLOL. I keep tryin' to tell everyone that I'm such a nice guy that they should give me presents.........but so far it hasn't worked! lol
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Auggie, as a general rule, the major santioning groups won't let you run juice with a forced induction. Have you checked into that? Not to mention that means that your bottom end will REALLY have to be up to snuff.
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Well, it's finally going back together!!! So far so good. I had to run to Summit a few more times. Needed a bit longer pushrods and had to go to up to a 3/8 dia to keep rockers centered. I swapped the timing set I just bought for a Cloyes adjustable (at the cam) set. I ran into a little trouble swapping rear springs on heads due to clearance for the tool so I had to get creative. Then I ran into a problem with the rocker studs being too short on the top side and a hair too long in the head. The guide plates were not tight. So those got swapped out too. I also picked up a little something something to help keep the 8-71 blower temps down. You will see it in the pics along with some more notes. Tomorrow I finish valve train and degree the cam in. Then it's all down hill from their right? lol

I think I mentioned that the Hampton intake and blower sat back too far. If I mounted the intake backwards it could work except all the holes for the blower are gone. I was going to do some research for adapter plates to turn a blower around on an intake but am running out of time and patience, WhiteLightning said he might do some looking to see what he can find just as long as I repay his kindness in the way of my extra blower how can you say no to a nice guy like that! Plus he has also been very helpful with his knowledge and suggestions. For that I am truly thankful. And the same goes to all the others who have offered up their time, knowledge and input!!! Thank You!!!
Never easy, is it? haha.....tell me the blower temp control is nitrous. Please! Tell me it's nitrous!

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