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: Boss 500 nitro engine..... here it is.....


Henry Floored
10-30-2007, 07:13 PM
This from the Competition plus website.....


http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4493&Itemid=6




Racing enthusiasts know that the true heart of a race car is its engine – and Dan Davis, director of Ford Racing Technology, wants to make sure that the “heart” that powers NHRA Funny Car Mustangs of John Force Racing is pumping “blue” blood in the future.

Davis and John Medlen of John Force Racing challenged themselves to develop the new Ford BOSS 500, the first modern nitro engine for drag racing. The BOSS 500 was tested on-track for the first time on Oct. 18 and was unveiled for media today.

“We wanted to be in NHRA Funny Car with an engine that we really could call all our own,” David said. “I wanted people to see a Ford Mustang race car and know that it’s winning races with true Ford power.”

Davis and Medlen looked at the current nitro engine, discussed where they felt it had weaknesses, and decided to design and build a new engine to address them.

The BOSS 500 is the first nitro drag racing motor designed with analytical tools. It has a strengthened block for better durability and new cylinder heads developed by Ford and Force engineers. The basic design will favor areas such as the main caps register and the main webs in the block. Its engine block also is anodized blue after machining, helping ensure fans and competitors alike know when they’re seeing a Ford nitro engine under the hood.

Most of the external surface areas on the new 500-cubic-inch engine have been redesigned; a new belly pan was designed for better sealing; and the valve covers purposely call back the old Ford BOSS motors. The engine also features Ford main bearings with actual parts numbers in the Ford performance catalog.

“We had three things in mind when we set out on this project,” Davis said. “First, for marketing purposes, we wanted to say that we were putting reality behind the term ‘Powered by Ford.’

“Second, on the technical side, we have always helped out with aero, chassis development and now safety, but we always stopped short of the engine. This project has been a technical exercise for our engineers and the Force team to take the current motor, redesign it and make it
a Ford.

“Finally, we want fans to associate this engine with Ford and Force, but we also know this provides a new revenue opportunity for us,” Davis added. “In Funny Car, the plan is for this to be a John Force Racing-exclusive engine at the start, but we do want to be able to sell it to Top Fuel teams for competition in the near future.”

Davis said that the current plan is for new Force Mustang driver Mike Neff to use the Ford BOSS 500 engine full-time in 2008 as it goes through its development phase. The other Force Mustang drivers – John Force, Ashley Force and Robert Hight – will use the engine after it has been further developed.

Ford and Force Racing also are investigating a team to be the first development operation in Top Fuel, with a measured, commercial rollout to more competitors after it has gone through a prove-out stage in that division.



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The NHRA had them on a tight leash. Probably a lot of innovation knowing Force and Ford. Could put nitro racing on it's ear. I know it's roots are hemi based, but then the hemi has roots in the Ardun Ford, so who's on first?

In another thread someone said a TFX with Ford part numbers, uh uhhh. This is a Force/Ford creation built to the NHRA's parameter's according to this story.

Also I thought Ford had a strong grassroots presense in grassroots drag racing with the FFW and NMRA series. I can't remember when the grassroots Ford drag racing world was so active and I'm old!

Henry Floored
10-30-2007, 07:31 PM
more on this.....

http://www.fordracingparts.com/sema/2007.html

blastertech70
10-30-2007, 10:10 PM
I would rather see Ford put their money in a "sportsman" based program were more than a small part of drag racing can enjoy the factory support.

Grass roots racing IMO certainly dosn't start at the "fuel ranks"" of NHRA :roll:

Lem Evans
10-30-2007, 10:26 PM
Sportsman...like NHRA prostock :roll: ... Like GM and Mopar ?
I'd rather see the $s spent on new product .

SS 385
10-30-2007, 10:31 PM
Sportsman...like NHRA prostock ... Like GM and Mopar ?

No like stock and super stock :D :D

blastertech70
10-30-2007, 10:33 PM
Sportsman...like NHRA prostock

"pro Stock" is not a sportsman class if it was it wouldn't have "pro" in front of it :roll: :wink:

Lem Evans
10-30-2007, 10:40 PM
Sportsman...like NHRA prostock ... Like GM and Mopar ?

No like stock and super stock :D :D

S...SS and Super gas / Super comp...etc...leave pro out of the deal ...IMO .

I have seen that Ford has some deals in NMRA etc....no NHRA....I can see that....but $s for real sportsman classes on a regional basis would be cool .

How does it go Colin ?

Lem Evans
10-30-2007, 10:47 PM
Sportsman...like NHRA prostock

"pro Stock" is not a sportsman class if it was it wouldn't have "pro" in front of it :roll: :wink:

I'd guess you did not see the :roll: ....that means...NOT!

QtrWarrior
10-30-2007, 10:48 PM
Sportsman...like NHRA prostock ... Like GM and Mopar ?

No like stock and super stock :D :D

S...SS and Super gas / Super comp...etc...leave pro out of the deal ...IMO .

I have seen that Ford has some deals in NMRA etc....no NHRA....I can see that....but $s for real sportsman classes on a regional basis would be cool .

How does it go Colin ?

Couldn't agree more Lem.

Question is.. Is that new Nitro motor going to available thru FRPP and if so, How much ?? :roll:

Lem Evans
10-30-2007, 10:50 PM
not much more that a Neon prostock engine :lol:

Lem Evans
10-30-2007, 10:57 PM
Excuse me...come on down monday and buy the 500" V-8 rear wheel drive Stratus :)

moparman
10-30-2007, 11:02 PM
Deep skirt block, distributors at an angle in front of the right side head, hmmnnn, covers with Ford on them over the valve covers. Hmmnnn, yep must be completely Ford. About as much as the top fuel hemi's are mopar. But at least they look like a mopar hemi. Didn't we already go over all this in a previous post?

SS 385
10-30-2007, 11:06 PM
Lem

Things are good. trying to get the 429 together. Yes Ford realy backs the FFW and NMRA. Myself I find it a lot more interesting to see a Ford wade through a sea of chevy's and mopars.
There has been rumor (solid source) that the big three would like to re-establish the FX classes to have the new gen mustang,camero,challenger race heads up with current OEM power!! sounds Exciting. Evans motorsports ready to go up against Roush and Bowles LoL :wink:

BOSS 429
10-31-2007, 05:12 PM
Deep skirt block, distributors at an angle in front of the right side head, hmmnnn, covers with Ford on them over the valve covers. Hmmnnn, yep must be completely Ford. About as much as the top fuel hemi's are mopar. But at least they look like a mopar hemi. Didn't we already go over all this in a previous post?

the A.R. HEMI THAT WAS ORG BUILT FOR TOP FUEL ALSO HAD( front drive bolted on) DIST. (S) AT ANGLE,THIS IS TO CLEAR BLOWER SNOUT,BUT THAT ENGINE FOUND ITS WAY TO PRO STOCK.and glidden did well with it,maybe this head/block might too.the diff was it was on the left side ,not right side like these new boss engines