it8eazy 10-02-2009, 05:41 PM I'm deciding to go with a manual transmission instead of my C6 in my Torino just because my car has a clutch pedal and don't want it to go to waste. I need a flywheel that takes an 11" clutch. My clutch is brand new basically, maybe 100 miles on it, so trying to save every dime. I go to the part store and tell them exactly what I need, but they need to know a vehicle to search. I'm thinking like a 1990s F350 but I'm not sure the clutch size. The motor came out of a 1972 Ford LTD if that makes a difference. Oh I almost forgot, I'm also buying a new starter too. Just to be safe it is a 460, sometimes people get a little deranged on forums.
Diggindeeper 10-02-2009, 06:14 PM The problem with your idea is you'll have trouble with the internal/external balance with a Post 1978 application. Try a mid 70's one ton maybe, the parts store should be able to tell you if they're 11 inch. OR you could check out L and L. i believe they may have one.
it8eazy 10-02-2009, 07:43 PM Thanks for pointing that out, I completely forgot about the whole internal and external balances. That L and L site has what I need but I'm kind of on a budget, but hey I can always save up.
2slow 10-03-2009, 10:46 AM look into a 400 bell and FE flywheel
sg69fordman 10-06-2009, 11:27 PM Hi guys,
I hope you don't mind my jumping in here, but I'm looking for some advice from someone who's done this or knows more about it than I do. I have a 67 Mustang Fastback with a 390 4-speed. The 390 is junk thanks to the previous owner. I have a good, lower mileage '73 460/C6 and am going to put 70 heads on it. My question is: Can you tell me what parts I need to gather for the 460/4-speed setup? I've heard about using a 390 flywheel & clutch parts and the 400 bell and clutch fork. Is that about it?
As a father of 2 teenage girls, I am budget minded and I would appreciate your opinion since you seem to be talking about the same type of setup.
jcarte 10-11-2009, 07:44 PM check out my conversion..search ..1969 460 with a toploader..... 400/ 429 bells work...(I have a 400 would get rid of cheap)...the aluminum 85 truck bell worked as it held the longer small input shaft tranny just right and had a hydraulic clutch release system,....260-390 cu in used same tranny.(small input)..429 engine used the shorter thicker tranny input shafts ,bigger brgs ,output etc.so the 429 bell held the tranny in closer (1/2")...360 flywheel was used but a 390 will work too...I had the flywheel (184 teeth)drilled to match my the pressure plate...11" clutch out of a bronco or f150...(thats what i put in it)should work...do not use pressure plate with the three fingers!!! I used the stock 460 starter and 390 pilot shaft bushing
Check all lengths and fit before crankin in those bell bolts...
BOSS 429 10-11-2009, 10:12 PM I'm deciding to go with a manual transmission instead of my C6 in my Torino just because my car has a clutch pedal and don't want it to go to waste. I need a flywheel that takes an 11" clutch. My clutch is brand new basically, maybe 100 miles on it, so trying to save every dime. I go to the part store and tell them exactly what I need, but they need to know a vehicle to search. I'm thinking like a 1990s F350 but I'm not sure the clutch size. The motor came out of a 1972 Ford LTD if that makes a difference. Oh I almost forgot, I'm also buying a new starter too. Just to be safe it is a 460, sometimes people get a little deranged on forums.
1975 360 4 speed f150or 1976,2wd
57merc 10-12-2009, 12:23 AM On my old race car with a (427 sideoiler), now converted to a street car I needed to switch out the race clutch. I used the same flywheel so I think any FE flywheel will work as they bolt up and are the same diameter as a 460 except a 428 only is externally balanced. You need to check the number of teeth on the FE compared to a 460 because a 460 has more. Don't remember the number difference but all that is needed is use the matching starter drive or switch to a 460 ring gear. I bolted a centerforce 2 pressure plate for a 460 truck (11" think 76 to 97) and you'll just need a disc (I Like the organic) with the right spline for your tranny which should be a small spline toploader if it was behind a 390 from the factory. Be sure to use the right crank bushing also.
57merc 10-12-2009, 10:37 AM Hi guys,
I hope you don't mind my jumping in here, but I'm looking for some advice from someone who's done this or knows more about it than I do. I have a 67 Mustang Fastback with a 390 4-speed. The 390 is junk thanks to the previous owner. I have a good, lower mileage '73 460/C6 and am going to put 70 heads on it. My question is: Can you tell me what parts I need to gather for the 460/4-speed setup? I've heard about using a 390 flywheel & clutch parts and the 400 bell and clutch fork. Is that about it?
As a father of 2 teenage girls, I am budget minded and I would appreciate your opinion since you seem to be talking about the same type of setup.
Sorry.............my reply was to this post
sg69fordman 10-16-2009, 08:33 PM Thanks very much to those who replied. This site has a lot of great info. Im going to look at a pair of D0VE virgin heads tomorrow and hopfully they will be good enough to bring home.
Scotty G
1962fairlane 10-20-2009, 08:14 PM Got a 460 bell and cast flywheel with neutral balance. $150 plus shipping form NS Canada. Shipping might be expensive. Although I might be going to swap meet in CT next month. Phone if interested. 902 661 2663. Jeff.
96Mustang460cid 10-20-2009, 08:50 PM About ten years ago, I looked into doing this same deal. I vaguely remember being told that a 390 flywheel with a different bushing would work. I know I bought the flywheel and had it surface (in fact, I still have it), but I don't know if the 390 flywheel used an 11" clutch or not. I know it's not really an answer, but it may get you on the right track.
Another good x-referencing source is RockAuto.com. It allows you to look up lots of different applications a verify clutch size, ect.
Have a good day!
Michael
blown473 10-25-2009, 05:13 PM F E flywheel will work. most in older trucks had 11 in. clutch. Any 351m or 400m bellhousing is same block pattern as 460. I am currently using a 351m bell from a 70s bronco and a F E flywheel behind my 460 in a 1955 ford f100. works perfect. use the fork that goes with the bell. I am using a hays 11 in clutch and pressure plate, and ford crank bushing. hays tob. toploaders bolt directly too this , also the overdrive toploaders made after 1973 fit as well, I have used both. If you have any self service wrecking yards where you are you can get these parts cheap. the bell cost me $25. flywheel same. Later toploader overdrives can be found in f150 pus behind 351w or 300 6cyls and in vans also. we find them out here for $95. only drawback to the overdrive is signifigant rpm drop between 2-3 shift because 3rd is 1 to 1. but if you have enough motor it will carry it the payoff is big top end and low cruise rpms. good luck!
rjshove 11-23-2009, 04:54 PM 360/ 390 ford trucks 3spd or 4 doesn't matter. 1968-72. 11" most of them, some had 11 1/2". I used them, just check for the starter ingagement. I was told to change the ring gear to a 460, and use the 460 starter. It's been some time, and I think I used a 390 starter. More on this later, ray
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