The engine's been Dyno'd

F350 Strait
03-23-2006, 12:53 AM
Howdy All

Well I’m a happy camper. I have just dyno’d my new engine. This is the first engine that I’ve put together from the bottom to the top on my own. My goal was to build a torque monster that I will be installing in my 79 F350 to pull a 37’ toy hauler . . . everyone has their hot rod build . . .

What I built:
545 – Scat rotating assembly with forged pistons, ‘H’ rods, internally balanced. – 10.5 to 1 compression.
My block was zero decked, torque plate bored to 30 over, line honed main bearing & camshaft journals.
The oil pump is a high volume Ford cobra jet pump that I shimmed with 2 shims prior to installation.
Comp Cam – Extreme Energy 262 H springs & all - set straight up, Comp’s magnum roller rockers, Ford’s push rods for the John Kasse Super Cobra Jet heads.
John Kasse’s alum. Super Cobra Jet heads
Edlebrock’s Air Gap Performer intake
750 Holley dual feed, double pumper – stage 3 upgraded/blueprinted by Jet.
L&L Headers

My goal was to have major low rpm torque, close to 600 ft lbs, with a modest increase in horse power. Obviously, I way overbuilt the bottom end . . . two reasons – 1. I wanted to bullet-proof the engine & 2. IF I ever decide to put the engine in a ‘quicker’ vehicle, all I have to do is change the cam & springs & I have a horsepower engine.

The reason that I am using a shimmed high volume oil pump (High Flow Dynamics, thanks Paul Kane) is that I will be running, ‘lugging’, the engine around 2,000 rpm pulling a 10,000+ lb 5th wheel. I want tons of oil circulation at that rpm. Yes I have a factory oil cooler on it. So far the oil pressure is pretty steady at 60+ lbs up to 70 lbs when it is cold.

The dyno results are 614 average torque from 3,000 to 5,000 rpm with a majority of the torque in the 3,000 range of 650 + torque. I was not able to get the torque from 2,000 up because the engine blew thru that rpm before the Dyno could grab it. I think that I probably am developing around 600 ft lbs at 2,000 rpm. Horse power wise an average of 448 with the upper end being 498 @ 5,000.

Now all I have to do is get the engine into the truck. Can’t wait to feel it in the truck.

Earl

BBsteve
03-23-2006, 01:06 AM
good job guy! i need you to pull a few stumps up out of my backyard with all that tq! i love it when a plan comes thru.

PatFromJersey
03-23-2006, 06:18 AM
Nice job on doing it yourself Earl! I have a question for you. On that Scat rotating assembly, what pistons did you use, to work with the new SCJ heads? I'm going this same route, but I found out the SCJ heads need the pistons notched near the edge, to clear the new design. Any insight with piston P/N's, brand, etc. would be very helpful. The rotating assembly I'm getting, is a Scat 521, with Probe -26cc pistons PN 13599-030, and they can't be used with the SCJ heads, but I'm finding out hopefully today, if they can be notched for the new SCJ design. Thanks in advance!

Pat

Phantasea466
03-23-2006, 06:47 AM
You won't have any trouble towing anything with that brute!

Nice job :!: :!:

Brenden
03-23-2006, 08:40 AM
Nice Job Earl. That's a very similar combo I have planned out for my tow rig other than I plan on using the TFS Street heads. Nice to see someone put numbers together for a combo like that.

chilly
03-24-2006, 05:22 PM
Very nice build for your goals, nice job!!!

IDT-572
03-24-2006, 10:08 PM
That should make the power strokes run and hide!!! Just make sure you keep a couple of u joints under the seat at all times

RapidRuss
08-15-2006, 07:02 AM
Very cool build..being a dual purpose build with just a cam and spring change and probably a little more carb!!

Nice!!

Russ

richter69
08-15-2006, 07:29 AM
great numbers, but it wont scare a powerstroke by any means. My 99 dynoed 312/622 at the rear wheels with stock injectors, turbo and mild generic chip, all at 2600 rpm. again great numbers, you will enjoy towing all over agin.

psquare75
08-25-2006, 12:06 PM
Just saw this post.. Idk how I missed it.

I wonder what this would pull in the 1/4 in a 4000+ car?

dfree383
08-25-2006, 03:25 PM
Sounds like a monster ! :twisted:

Billk460
08-27-2006, 09:01 AM
Howdy All

Well I’m a happy camper. I have just dyno’d my new engine. .......

Congratulations Earl on a job well done. I hope this engine gives you plenty of fun.

Bill.

Broncman
11-04-2006, 08:27 AM
Great build! I am building a tow motor but not that wild? I do have a question on the oil pump? How does shimming give you more pressure at lower RPM's fo towing? I thought that shimming just increased the pressure relief, which I thought was usually reacged at higher rpm? Have I missed something here? I have allways wondered about the shimming , and which pump to use for low rpm , high load stuff.
Ken

BB68coupe
12-23-2006, 04:57 PM
Great build! I am building a tow motor but not that wild? I do have a question on the oil pump? How does shimming give you more pressure at lower RPM's fo towing? I thought that shimming just increased the pressure relief, which I thought was usually reacged at higher rpm? Have I missed something here? I have allways wondered about the shimming , and which pump to use for low rpm , high load stuff.
Ken

Shimming the relief raises the pressure at which the pump bypasses oil (also puts more strain on the pump body, its drive shaft, and the cam gear). Its the same principle as turning up the air pressure on your compressor. Higher pump pressure helps force oil between the crank and bearings even when the loads trying to force it out are enormous. This engine makes a dumptruck load of torque at very low rpm, so it is advantageous to have full pressure availible. A new engine with a HV oilpump will easily reach its bypass pressure at really low rpm. There is a certain amount of oil (at a given viscosity) that can flow through the engine at a given pressure, temperature, and RPM. The HV pump almost always (almost!) has the ability to supply more than this amount. The rpm at which full pressure is reached is simply determind by what RPM the pump will flow more than will flow through the engine at that pressure. without a bypass, the pressure would continue to climb until something broke. This is why clearances are important when determining whether or not a HV pump is necessary.

That build sounds like it would be a lot of fun (and really tough on tires..lol) hats off to you!

gregrob
12-24-2006, 11:51 AM
great numbers, but it wont scare a powerstroke by any means. My 99 dynoed 312/622 at the rear wheels with stock injectors, turbo and mild generic chip, all at 2600 rpm. again great numbers, you will enjoy towing all over agin.

Likewise mine did 313hp and 707tq on stock injectors. Hopefully quite a bit more now.
Peak tq was less than 2200 rpms
http://thefourwheelerpage.com/images/313dynorun.jpg

However, it would be cool to put a sticker on that sayin "you just got passed by a gasser". LOL

You may not run away with it but I bet you'll be able to keep up.
And look out when you unhook the trailer..... You would proabably leave either one of our trucks sittin when you can wind it out, because of the HP.

Great job. I might have to borrow some of your ideas for my build.

DJOHAGIN
12-05-2007, 09:44 PM
bump