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10-31-2013 01:28 PM
itsabullitt Thanks again for the replies. I'm thinking a stroker may offer the best low end torque for my towing needs, but I still want decent power up top too. I'm really leaning toward just having a crate engine built. This way I know I have the right head/cam/intake combo from the get go and won't have to worry about changing parts down the road. I was originally thinking a $5000 budget for parts, but even if that was possible, it's worth it to me to have the complete motor for the extra couple grand. By the time I have the machine work done, and all the extra time for assembly I'm coming out even, or maybe a little ahead by going crate motor.
10-31-2013 09:17 AM
ITSA 91 I agree with stroking it.Start with as big (557?) and strong a bottom end as you can afford.If that does not get you the "power" that you want,its easier to change heads,cam and carb than to start all over again.
10-30-2013 08:09 PM
Fordmanmatt I have a similar build I have a 78 ford f150 2wd and I am building it to around 500 to 575 hp and I have all the new parts right now ready to install and you need to look at around 7500 to 8000 to be realistic to reach 500 hp I have the scat crank and probe flat top pistons iske cam etc and I have not totaled my cost up yet but I know I am over 6000 just sitting in my closet right now and I have not even bought the heads or carb yet. I do have d3s that have been ported just recently but decided not to use them Trick Flow Instead for me
10-30-2013 03:23 PM
itsabullitt Thanks guys. I will give Carl a shout when it comes time to pull the trigger.
10-30-2013 03:15 PM
68montego X2 I think that street fighter has too high of a peak for what your looking for. But then again don't know the torque curve. It could come in very low and just steadily rise to 4,000 rpm. Talk to carl or one of the engine builders on here and get an idea of what you want and how much it will cost. They can build it exactly like you want.

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10-30-2013 03:12 PM
windsor It's more important to look at "area under the curve" than peak numbers, in terms of useful power production for a vehicle like yours. The stroker will be a much better suit to your needs.

Some Super Cobra Jet heads would be a good addition and very cost effective.

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10-30-2013 03:09 PM
itsabullitt Thanks for the reply. The extra money for the stroker wasn't really an issue. I was just comparing the crate engines, and it seemed strange the smaller displacement, stock stroke street fighter was showing better numbers than the stroker options. The street brawler with the stroker offers less hp, but more tq, and at a lower rpm. This may be a better option for me as I would prefer the 50 extra tq and wouldn't mind losing the 25 or more hp considering it's still giving me 550+hp and over 600 ft/lb. It's only about $2K over my original budget, but considering It will be a drop in, ready to go engine, I may still come out ahead. With the FAST EFI I'll still end up with about $10K in it total. The A/C may have to wait.
10-30-2013 02:40 PM
4604X4 Go with the Stroker now - or you'll regret it in a couple of years. You will have long forgotten about the extra $500 but not the increased TQ/HP.
10-30-2013 12:46 PM
itsabullitt So I've been doing some more reading on the site and found Cars by Carl's website. I've read several of Carl's posts, and am really thinking about going for either a short block or crate engine. By the time I build mine, have all the machine work done, etc. I'll have about as much money as I'd have in a crate engine that was assembled by a professional with the "good stuff" parts. Would the street fighter set up do what I'm wanting the truck to do?

http://www.carsbycarl.com/Crate_Engines.html
09-28-2013 11:49 AM
Dman64 I think my cost me right around $4500 and it was just for parts and machining. I would like to build another one but slightly different but don't have anything to put it in.lol

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09-28-2013 10:25 AM
itsabullitt One other thing I didn't mention was that I'd be doing the labor myself outside of any machine work needed. My budget was just for parts.
09-28-2013 09:44 AM
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Watched the walkaround vid of your truck in your sig. Sounds great Dman!
Thank you, I actually changed the exhaust after that as it was just too loud, it sound better now. I need to do some in cab videos with the new overdrive.

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09-28-2013 12:01 AM
itsabullitt
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Build a 521 IMHO.

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Watched the walkaround vid of your truck in your sig. Sounds great Dman!
09-27-2013 11:55 PM
itsabullitt Good points on the mpg. My brother has a '99 F250 superduty with a 7.3 PSD. We've been using it to take my car to Texas and Indiana for Bullitt Shootouts and National events. For the wheeling trips they're only about 2.5 hours away in Oklahoma, so not too terrible for 10mpg. For the longer trips, we may just use his diesel for the mpg, but I'd like to use my own truck when I can. If $5K won't do it, then it may just take me longer to build it. From what I'm seeing, the stroker kits are around $2K, and I'm not even sure I want to go that route.


What would you guys recommend for heads, cam, intake, to get the numbers I'm looking for? I'd be rebuilding the motor anyway, so it'll be getting new pistons, bearings, etc. If the 460 crank is good, it'll probably go in rather than the stroker as I'm concerned there may be some issues with cooling and longevity on a large displacement engine. Our maximum octane for pump gas is 91, so I also want to make sure the compression isn't crazy.
09-27-2013 08:36 PM
blue1978fordbronco Depending on the condition of the motor you are going to need more money than $5k to grab the numbers you want especially if you go with a stroker kit.
As was said before, that will be a 10mpg motor at best pulling a trailer, that's before you hit the mountains. I like the idea though.
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