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JigSawMan 01-23-2011 07:19 PM

460 into a 66 Mustang
 
I am almost at the point where I need to start thinking about putting the engine in the 66 mustang. I am dropping a 460 into it, but am not sure of the following. maybe you guys can point me in the right direction.

1. Motor mounts - no idea what to use. I am planning a Mustang II front suspension but even people like Helix only make mounts for small blocks.

2. Engine placement - Once I have the mounts decided upon, I will need some tips in regards to placement of the engine. How far forward? How far to the left or right? Etc.

3. Shock towers - Yes I am removing them. More than likely removing all of the inner fender sheet metal too and going with round tube frame connected to the rest of the cage on the interior of the body. I plan to leave the floor intact as well as the frame rails that are part of that. Any other advice would be helpful.

I guess that's good for starters. Thanks for the info ahead of time :)
JSM

TorinoStyle2 01-23-2011 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JigSawMan (Post 950752)
I am almost at the point where I need to start thinking about putting the engine in the 66 mustang. I am dropping a 460 into it, but am not sure of the following. maybe you guys can point me in the right direction.

1. Motor mounts - no idea what to use. I am planning a Mustang II front suspension but even people like Helix only make mounts for small blocks.

2. Engine placement - Once I have the mounts decided upon, I will need some tips in regards to placement of the engine. How far forward? How far to the left or right? Etc.

3. Shock towers - Yes I am removing them. More than likely removing all of the inner fender sheet metal too and going with round tube frame connected to the rest of the cage on the interior of the body. I plan to leave the floor intact as well as the frame rails that are part of that. Any other advice would be helpful.

I guess that's good for starters. Thanks for the info ahead of time :)
JSM

Sounds like a cool project!!
For mounts, you should really consider a front mount motor plate....because when it comes time for custom built headers, its gonna make life a whole lot easier!!
You can do the side mounts, but they are at odds with headers and available space.

I would center the engine in the chassis. As for its fore/aft placement, its a pretty tight fit already, I would go rearward as much as possible, but you'll have to probably use a spare block and Foxbody oil pan to mock up everything to check for clearance.

Depending on if the frontend kit you are using comes with a front steer or rear steer rack & pinion unit, the oilpan will be real close if its a front steer type.

JigSawMan 01-23-2011 11:14 PM

Thanks. I really do not know much about how a front mount motor plate works. I understand the concept, but not the mounting procedure to the car itself. Do you know of any resources I might go look at?
JSM

cool40 01-23-2011 11:59 PM

use some fox mustang stuff on it.i made the lower a-frames and used a coilover kit on the struts.also go with a front motor plate,you'll be glad you did.

cool40 01-24-2011 12:08 AM

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found a pic:)

BBFmavrick 01-24-2011 12:15 AM

Using the frt plate will make your life much simpler. :)

JigSawMan 01-24-2011 12:18 AM

Thanks so far guys. Cool40 where did you get that pic of the suspension? I had not considered that and I'd like to see more.
JSM

JigSawMan 01-24-2011 12:31 AM

Here are a few images of what I have done so far.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/m...g/IMG_0961.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/m...g/IMG_0953.jpg

These are older pictures. I am a bit further along. Now, the whole front end is a one piece fiberglass front end. I essentially got rid of the aftermarket steel fenders, got fiberglass ones and glued everything together, then fiber glassed it all and finished it.

I am playing around a little with the ride height in the back. It sits a little too low. I am going to bring it up about 1.5 inches.
JSM

cool40 01-24-2011 12:36 AM

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Thanks so far guys. Cool40 where did you get that pic of the suspension? I had not considered that and I'd like to see more.
JSM

it's a pic of my car,a few minutes before i cut the front off.i ran that setup for years and it worked fine,but i wanted to go faster so i got strange struts and a new sub frame.the new struts were worth a 100 lbs off the frontend.

cool40 01-24-2011 12:43 AM

check this out.he's still got a mostly stock front frame rail with coil over struts,i'm not sure if they're fox stuff but you can ask him.page 35 has a good shot of the headers and frame rail. http://www.429-460.com/t6986p510-563...t-some-numbers

JigSawMan 01-24-2011 01:05 AM

Thanks, If you have any more images of your setup, I'd love to see it.
JSM

cool40 01-24-2011 01:18 AM

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Thanks, If you have any more images of your setup, I'd love to see it.
JSM

i have a few more.that's nice looken work in progress you got.:)

JigSawMan 01-24-2011 01:23 AM

Thanks for the compliment. Also thanks for your images. The one thing that scares me a little is the set up. I suppose I would start by measuring everything off of the Fox body I stole pieces from and then transfer those measurements to my frame. What do you think?
JSM

Also PM'd you

cool40 01-24-2011 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JigSawMan (Post 950841)
Thanks for the compliment. Also thanks for your images. The one thing that scares me a little is the set up. I suppose I would start by measuring everything off of the Fox body I stole pieces from and then transfer those measurements to my frame. What do you think?
JSM

Also PM'd you

are you gona keep the stock frame rails or run 2x3 from the rear? if you use the stock rails just make a new lower control arm with heim's on both ends,kinda like a 4-link bar.do the same for the stock radius rod.i cut the end off the fox a-frame and welded the tubing in it but that may not work with a stock rail.the fox strut needs to lay back at a pritty good angle but you can mount it on the bar goen to the fire wall.it's no big deal if you mess up or dont like it,cut it off and start over.:)i'd cut it all out and run 2x3,but i dont know what your plans are.

powerstrokeace 01-24-2011 01:47 AM

Try R&C motorsports
http://www.rcmotorsportsinc.com/

And look at page 4 kit number 107

http://www.rcmotorsportsinc.com/rod__custom.pdf


I've been wanting to do this t my 66 coupe for years but have never been able to justifie it to the WIFE.

ACE


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