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What do I do when her top is off???

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I recently got a 1990 E350 with a EFI 460 in it. I bought all the normal tune up stuff and went to it and I can tell you that if someone says they replaced the front passenger plug without shifting the motor or removing the body they are lying! Which brings me to removing her top.

That motor is virtually impossible to work on in that tight space so my friend and I decided it is easier to just lift off her top...... I mean the body and replace the plugs, wires, belts, pulleys, remove all the smog stuff and probably replace the water pump and add headers. I may also do a performance coil and distributor. Are there any other things you recommend I do while the body is up? Are there any tricks or things that may not be obvious about removing the body? Luckily I have access to a nice shop with 3 lifts and a nice box full of Snap On tools which should make this not too bad to do. Any suggestion appreciated. Thanks
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If I'm not mistaken your van will have a removable doghouse that is either bolted down or clamped into place that will gain you more access to the engine compartment.
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There would be nothing you could get to on the back of the motor without removing the interior doghouse. Its actually the front plug thats impossible to get to.
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There would be nothing you could get to on the back of the motor without removing the interior doghouse. Its actually the front plug thats impossible to get to.

With the right 3/8" ratchet, u or swivel joint and socket both front plugs can be changed from the doghouse side. It is a matter of persistance and hands fitting in between the floor and cold exhaust manifolds / headers.

I've been there done that.




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You may want to consider hiring out the plug change. It's not impossible to change the #1 plug with the body and motor in their normal place. I owned a 91 E350 and all the plugs were changeable with normal hand tools and I'm not a liar. I even changed the timing chain with out moving the motor or body. Now adding headers is another story. Don't even try it if you can't change the plugs.

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Damn fords....... gotta remove the bodies just to work on the engines. Lol

Richard is right, if you canít change that plug then definitely donít get involved with raising the body.

It is true that you do remove the cab on f350 diesels to do certain engine work, but not this van.
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You guys must have more nimble hands or possibly a thinner/more appropriate ratchets/tools. Just before I started the hard one I had asked our Snap On guy if there was a special tool and he said no. I will attempt it again later this week.

Lets assume I do manage to get the last plug done, I am still considering pulling the body off to do the other things. I would rather spend an extra 2 days in body removal and reattachment than deal with the frustration of trying to work in tight, hard to reach places. If I did, what other things should I do while its off? Thanks.
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Just get the tools.....knuckles, extensions etc. . Reread your last post....it’s a bit extreme. When you are finished with this tune up and you have listened to sound advice(not removing the body!!!)....you are gonna reread your post again.....you might even delete it in hopes that it never gets found. It happens sometimes.

But, to answer your question.....body mounts, under coating/rust protection, diesel swap.....sky is the limit.

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Thanks but I was using the Husky version of that. The other issue I had was how thick the handle was and it kept getting caught against the doghouse lip. I just purchased this to try because it has a thin shaft like a wrench.

https://www.harborfreight.com/14-in-...het-67994.html
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Not the same. HF deal is a flex head,pivots under the head. Cobalt is swivel head,pivots at the center line of the head. Big difference for spark plugs.
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I stand corrected. The water pump had a small leak so after I removed everything to replace it and then removed the smog pump and plumbing (permanently) I can finally gain reasonable front access to the front passenger spark plug. I don't think it has ever been changed.
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