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Switching to a '92 starter on a '69...

My starter is beginning to act up. ...even when cold. So I looked at the '92 truck starter. It has the solenoid on the starter. So I'm going to ask a basic/dumb question... I assume that I need to circumvent my current solenoid and run a new battery cable and ignition wire to the solenoid on the starter? Or is there some other simpler method that I am missing?

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P.S I did look at the Powermaster replacement. It looks like they are only good to 10:1 CR. The '69 is 10.5:1 However I thought that I read that people were using them and they worked fine.
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I am using a cheap a Autozone starter on my 15-1 598. It spins great. I told them I have a 93 F250 7.5 liter. But I have a crank trigger with the timing locked out and use a start retard in the MSD box The engine will kick back and break the starter every time unless I start the engine from a flooded condition. I have a switch to leave the Ignition off start cranking pump the pedal twice then crack the throttle turn on the ignition and it starts without kicking back. I just put my engine back together and I forgot to turn off the switch. Pow back to Autozone !! I am on the third starter in 12 years Lifetime warranty They don't bat an eye. I do take a spare starter to the track.

I have an issue with my wiring. When I hooked up the start wire to the solenoid on the starter it would not engage but it will activate the starter relay on the fender so I left it connected to the starter relay and ran a wire from the starter relay to the solenoid and works fine. been that way 12 years

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Can't beat these for the price...or any price really. Move your starter cable over to the battery side of the orig solenoid,connect a 12,14 ga wire where the cable used to be to the trigger post on the new starter solenoid.You need to keep the 12v to coil on start function of the orig solenoid so don't eliminate it.
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I'm looking at doing the same thing, my 69 original starter is 9 tooth where as all the mini or gear reduction starters I see for this year are 10 tooth. The Mad Porter runs I think the same 1992 truck starter (Remy brand) you are looking at on his 72. I assume the 10 tooth will mesh with the fly wheel I'd guess because maybe the gear on the starter is larger diameter but I don't really know. Just FYI.
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I went through the stock starter let down this year myself, and installed one of the starters in the link below in my car and it's a night and day difference. Cranks over my 11:1 528 like there's no plugs in the engine, hot or cold. I like it enough that I've added them to my line of "house brand" parts.

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My starter is beginning to act up. ...even when cold. So I looked at the '92 truck starter. It has the solenoid on the starter. So I'm going to ask a basic/dumb question... I assume that I need to circumvent my current solenoid and run a new battery cable and ignition wire to the solenoid on the starter? Or is there some other simpler method that I am missing?

Thanks,

Mark

P.S I did look at the Powermaster replacement. It looks like they are only good to 10:1 CR. The '69 is 10.5:1 However I thought that I read that people were using them and they worked fine.
lol, where did you get your info, we have 16to1 engs with power masters on them, for years now

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That's what it lists under the started specs on the Summit page. ..."good to 10:1 CR". Like I said, I thought that I recall that guys were using it.

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I am using one of those DB electronics starters on my ranchero w/460 and it works great. Well worth the time and money (great price) to convert!
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So I had purchased the '92 truck starter. I finally installed it the other day. I had just run a 10ga. jumper wire from the input (hot side that is coming from the existing solenoid on the fender) of the new solenoid to the small input to the new solenoid itself. Works like a charm. I used 10ga based upon the spec sheet's current draw of the solenoid itself.

The cable itself was BARELY long enough to bolt to the new starter. I had to work that thru the existing hold-down bolted to the engine mount. ...never a simple solution.

Thanks for everyone's input!

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So I had purchased the '92 truck starter. I finally installed it the other day. I had just run a 10ga. jumper wire from the input (hot side that is coming from the existing solenoid on the fender) of the new solenoid to the small input to the new solenoid itself. Works like a charm. I used 10ga based upon the spec sheet's current draw of the solenoid itself.

The cable itself was BARELY long enough to bolt to the new starter. I had to work that thru the existing hold-down bolted to the engine mount. ...never a simple solution.

Thanks for everyone's input!

Mark



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