Lack of Progress - 460 Ford Forum
Chilly's Garage A place for non-460 banter.

User Tag List

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-28-2006, 09:46 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brownsburg, IN
Posts: 1,450
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Lack of Progress

Well I was excited about the Struts but they never got done so ...........
we've come to the realization that I am in need of a new chassis builder. I am on vacation next week so I will go to Senatobia to get all my stuff.

I will not bad mouth the chassis builder on here or anywhere. We are still friends, we just have different ideas on the importance of sticking with an original deadline. Nothing has been welded on the car since the dash bar and that was Dec.

I just feel like I should get out while we can still get along. I brought it to him in Nov/Dec. Like I said I am not mad, just disappointed. I would have liked to have raced at the end of this year.

The guy is a fine craftsman and does top notch work. I just don't think his interest is in tube chassis race cars. They aren't the low hanging fruit so to speak. SO I will have a ton of stuff to go get and then haul to another chassis builder somewhere. Bad news, but something good comes from everything bad... the good news is I will finally get some bars welded on my car.

The other good news is I got to start on a motor earlier than I thought. I was going to run the 514 in the new chassis but due to sheer boredom I had to do something, so that got moved forward.

this is a major set back, but we must move forward.

I surely hope his feelings don't get hurt on this, he means well and is a really good guy. I still consider him a friend. This is the hardest thing I've had to do in a while.
JSracing is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-28-2006, 09:59 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Mooresville, NC
Posts: 276
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Send a message via Yahoo to merc460
WOW! I know exactly how you feel, and I feel for ya. Went through the same thing, except my 'friend' got a year of FREE evening work from me I got squat. Still trying to get the chassis built.
I hope all goes well when you get your stuff.

WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may lead you to believe that ex-lovers are really dying for you to telephone them at four in the morning.
merc460 is offline  
post #3 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-28-2006, 10:03 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brownsburg, IN
Posts: 1,450
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
JSracing is offline  
 
post #4 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-28-2006, 10:04 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Livermore Ky
Posts: 8,521
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 74 Post(s)
        
Quote:
Originally Posted by merc460
WOW! I know exactly how you feel, and I feel for ya. Went through the same thing, except my 'friend' got a year of FREE evening work from me I got squat. Still trying to get the chassis built.
I hope all goes well when you get your stuff.
Come to Kentucky , I'll be glad to work you for free :P
Lem Evans is offline  
post #5 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-28-2006, 10:16 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 2,185
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
I've been there.

In my experience, the worst thing you can do is get a "great deal" from a good friend for anything involving labor. After getting burned multiple times on either the monetary or time factor...I've decided if I can't do it myself, I'd rather pay a reputable complete stranger double than take the job to a friend.

A friend will give you a good price, then sit on the project forever as they take better paying jobs. "When they can get to it" never comes around. It always ends up costing them to work on your car; so it sits. Your friend knows you personally and knows you will forgive and/or understand how busy they are.

Lastly, a friend knows you're not going to firebomb their shop when they've had your car for a year or two and havn't touched it.

No more "friends jobs" for me. The closest I come to employing a friend is asking to borrow a lift, or paying for a specific small-job while-I-wait.

www.RaceSystems.com
Home of Project Ludicrous Speed
ByronRACE is offline  
post #6 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-28-2006, 11:50 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 1,979
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
 
I know how you feel Jerry. That's how the guys who built an engine for me years ago were. After they did all of the machining and porting I pretty much assembled it myself in their shop!


Do you have any chassis guys in mind? I know New Orleans is a drive for you but there are some good guys down here. Some good ones in Baton Rouge too.

John


87 Mustang, 514, glide, etc...
jbozzelle is offline  
post #7 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-29-2006, 01:09 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: So.Cal
Posts: 2,426
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
 
The old addage applies.....'if you want something done, you gotta do it yourself'.

As the world turns...I get more dizzy!
TorinoStyle2 is offline  
post #8 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-29-2006, 08:59 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brownsburg, IN
Posts: 1,450
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TorinoStyle2
The old addage applies.....'if you want something done, you gotta do it yourself'.
True enough however, NHRA aqnd SFI specs require Tig welded and certain chassis specs. Granted I have the book on the specs but a reputable chassis shop is who you'd normally get to do this. this isnt'a a back half mild steel 2x3 frame rail car, not that there is anything wrong with that, it's just that the car has to be inspected to 6.00 flat, 25.1E specs. Unless you are REALLY GOOD this is somthing you don't usually do at home. USUALLY... there are a few exceptions of course.

Mainly I don't TIG weld or have a tig welder.... big obstacle right there.
JSracing is offline  
post #9 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-29-2006, 10:54 AM
Senior Member
 
Fordtek1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Chesapeake, Virginia
Posts: 1,539
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TorinoStyle2
The old addage applies.....'if you want something done, you gotta do it yourself'.
I agree. I'll try to do everything myself just to save me the aggrevation of dealing w/ a situation like above. It took 8 months to get my wife's cousin to do the machine work on my block and heads. Last time I'll ever tell anyone doing something for me "to take their time,I'm in no hurry".

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2158/ricksadql2.jpg
www.rickscarcare.net
Big Thanks to Chris Corey
aka TopSportsman916
[email protected] ALL MOTOR - NO KOOLAID
Fordtek1 is offline  
post #10 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-29-2006, 01:03 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brownsburg, IN
Posts: 1,450
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
strange thing, he must have felt something. I called him this morning and he said he put the body on the chassis today. makes no difference, too little too late.
JSracing is offline  
post #11 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-29-2006, 06:23 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Grand Rapids MI
Posts: 561
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Chassis Builder

Sorry to hear your troubles JS there is an old southern saying we use way up here in michigan, fish, family and friends stink after 3 days. When you find a new chassis builder make sure he has the new chassis specs 25.1E changed in the 2006 year so the chassis builders will be busy updating everyone chassis. Gregg
zephyrracer is offline  
post #12 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-29-2006, 06:52 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: markleville indiana
Posts: 126
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
JS i have a chassis shop in Indiana PROTREE RACE CARS
if i can help you just e-mail me back
i just finished a complete moly chassis car that cert it 6.00 it was 69 mustang the guy is a member of the forum
all cars are certified befor they leave my shop
95MUSTANG is offline  
post #13 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-29-2006, 09:57 PM
Senior Member
 
fordsbyjay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Lafayette, LA
Posts: 1,309
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Send a message via MSN to fordsbyjay
Chassis work can be a very in depth job. I know your point as one of the chassis builders in my last city seem to have the same 4 or 5 cars in his shop year after year and he would just bang a few small jobs in and out. I often wondered if they were all his friends cars or what but I did hear complaints from other customers at cruises etc. After saying that I have done some chassis work myself and it is a painfully slow process (measure everything a million times, weld once). Tig welding even adds more time. I often wondered if it got to be a much faster process had I had alot more experience in that field. Obviously you are having NO progress at all and you have a large job to do. I can't recommend anyone so I hope you have some better luck than you have been having.

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid-in-sideways, totally worn out, shouting.."holy crap.... what a ride!"
fordsbyjay is offline  
post #14 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-30-2006, 10:09 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brownsburg, IN
Posts: 1,450
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
thanks for the offer.

I'll be bringing the car to Mitch Perkins, Perk built race cars in Wetumpka Ala.
JSracing is offline  
post #15 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-30-2006, 03:01 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 928
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
You know I think there is a joke somewhere in here, hmmmm. You know your chassis builder is slow when he is delayed 3 times due to the certification requirements bieng updated.
Sorry couldn't resist.

Sorry to hear about your troubles with this, it really hurts when you have to do something like take teh work back away from someone you consider a friend, been there done that but we are still friends, it might make him made for a minute but if he is honest he will just go on and continue to do work that is paying him more and is more what he wants to do and continue to be your friend.
monsterbaby is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the 460 Ford Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Random progress pic... cletus66 Chilly's Garage 6 02-24-2008 11:43 AM
Making progress.... ford429cjlover Engine Tech 11 01-26-2008 10:54 PM
Project: 514 1966 Fairlane Progress DaveMcLain Chilly's Garage 15 01-07-2008 08:35 AM
Big Block Ranger progress BigBlockRanger Engine Tech 20 11-21-2006 01:01 PM
Making progress 56k beware Coupe Devil Chilly's Garage 5 07-25-2006 09:33 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome