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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 07-22-2006, 10:01 PM Thread Starter
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Toploader for a 460 in a '68 Galaxie??

Tried asking in a Galaxie list and the N54 trans forum and no response, so maybe you guys here can help me, I hope!

I am converting my '68 Galaxie from a 302/FMX to a 460/toploader. I'd love to do a 5 speed overdrive since I drive the car a lot (basically in the summer it's a daily driver), but I don't think my budget will allow for that.

What type of toploader should I be looking for? I know I need the long tailshaft for the shifter to line up right in a Galaxie. Is the Galaxie long tailshaft shared by any other car? What year transmissions should I be looking at? What part numbers should I be looking for?

Also, since this is going behind a 460 (mild engine) should I be looking for a big in/out toploader or will regular small input shaft toploader like from behind a 390 suffice?

What will I need as far as a bellhousing, clutch, pressure plate and flywheel? Anything special to look for there or will any ol' parts work fine?

What are thoughts on a linkage? I have clutch pedals and a z-bar from a '65 with a 6-banger. Will this setup work with a 460 installed using modified FE mounts (have the mounts and modified, ready to drop in)? I have a feeling the answer is probably no.

If the z-bar setup won't work or needs too much work to fit I think a cable setup would be the best route. What would be needed to make this work in my Galaxie with a toploader? I know I need to extend the top of the clutch pedal so it can pull on the cable, that's no big deal. What should I get the rest of the parts from and what exactly do I need?

How about a hydraulic setup? I know they exist, but I don't care for hydraulic clutch actuation (don't like the pedal feel) and it's probably expensive to do (cost is a consideration). Would like to know about it though just as a last option.

I just want to see what all my options are and try to get everything I need before I start the swap. Thanks!
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Wolfe race craft makes a "Box" that you weld into your trans tunnel. Rod runs through box.. along floor int of the car and has a clutch pedal on one end.. end inside the trans tunnel has linkage to hook clutch arm to. I have a few friends running these in fox chassis cars with great success. Just make sure its straight when you weld it in.

I am also looking for a top loader to go behind my 460. I KNOW I need the big in/out because I fully plan on raping this car to the bitter end. :twisted:
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Here's a great place to look for parts and ID stuff.

http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/

I'd try to find the big in/out top loader. I'll be using the McLeod Flywheel 463222, Pressure Plate 360650, Clutch Disc 260863, TO bearing 16042, and a big block clutch fork, for the 1 3/8 X 10 spline. I'm going with a hydraulic setup, because I won't be able to use the headers I have, which work great with the C6 that's in the car now. Most of the 460 headers for swaps, won't work with 4-speeds. I'm using a Wilwood pedal and master cylinder, down to a CNC push style slave cylinder on the bellhousing. I have some good ideas looking through a couple Cobra Replica sites, using 460's. I'll post pics when I'm finally done with that stage.

New project coming... 1932 Ford 5 Window Coupe 521/C6
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460/4spd in a 68 Gal

I have a 67 galaxie with a 460 and 4 spd.
The 4 spd is from a 66 fairlane, it's a wide ratio, small in&output, and a long tailshaft. I have a hurst comp plus shifter, that works great but I should use a shiftrod for a galaxie, they arch farther back to you don't have to reach nearly as far for the 2 to 3 throw.

now the bell housing is a lakewood. I used a factory clutch linkage off a 68 gal from FL. I had to fabricate the pivot support for the trans end. as that was missing from the parts.
the flywheel is a original 429CJ unit, 11.5 inch, I have a stock 11.5 truck clutch in it.

With 1.5 seasons at the track so far I have not had a single problem with clutch or trans. I have just about finished the 460's life though.


As far as parts go, you can use any late 70's or 80's truck bell housing from a 400 or 460. use the flywheel from a 460 NOT a 400, the 400 have a counterweight that needs to be machined off before it could be used.

the 66 gal 6 cyl linkage will only partially work. 65-66 brake and clutch pedals are different from 67-68. the push rod is different. the Z-bar will fit, the chassis pivot support should fit,

Bottom line you are going to have to do some fab work...

Good luck
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I've done a couple 460 installs in 60's gals, it really wakes the ol' girls up...

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Thanks much Dane, you've been very informative!
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