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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 05-13-2007, 06:20 PM Thread Starter
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Debate in Australia Put This on a Ballot and Vote in America

This is a good read.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp

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Well I can tell you right now.
They are breeding like flies. They are everywhere.

On a similar note, but not so serious. Did you know that Melbourne, Australia, has the second highest population of Greeks in the world? Athens in Greece being the highest.

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I for one, as well as millions of other Americans feel that after 9/11 they ALL should've been deported. I DON'T like them, I DON'T trust them and DON'T want them here. They and "their" values DO NOT belong here. And "ANYONE" whether on this forum or anywhere else in this great country "I" call home that stands up for these clowns should be deported as well.

They are given the luxuries of OUR Constitution when they're not even American citizens! They can burn my flag in support of their own religion on my soil. They can put me down, hold up signs telling me Muslim will rule! And if I don't like it, I can be killed. But I can't do anything because this NON-AMERICAN, NON-CITIZEN is hiding behind a Constitution that doesn't even apply to them! And most of them are hiding behind a mask while they call me a coward!

And another thing, I am not a racist. I don't care what border you come across to my country, if you want to prove yourself worthy of using my Constitution to live here, maybe you shouold take a couple tours of duty in defense of this great country. That's what they did in WWII & Korea. This country is losing it's backbone! Not because we are cowards, but because our government is letting everyone but the American Citizen dictate how things should be here. Like a couple months ago the state of California not only let a bunch of Mexican immigrant students hang their country's flag "over" the American flag, but they also hung our flag upside down in protest!! And I know for a fact that on American soil NO FLAG SHALL FLY "ABOVE" the Stars and Stripes!!! NONE!! PERIOD!!! And what was done? Nothing! Because they were using the laws of a Constitution that doesn't even apply to them. And I won't even get started on Social Security.

Well, I for one have had enough! And I am going to stand for what's right by "MY" Constitution and if you or they don't like it then let's throw-down, and you'll soon see that myself and many others as Americans are not cowards but the true 'ol fashioned butt-kickers you "used" to read about.
I personally have run out of buttons to push, so the next time someone pushes on of my buttons, there may be a meltdown.


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Well said ThndrChkn!
Many of us Aussies have similar feelings, but the moment anyone speaks up, they are classed as racists.
We had a politician who spoke up, started a party called "One Nation", and guess what, was called a racist, and finally gave up after quite a few years.

There were also two politicians in Holland, who basically wanted their country to be "Dutch" again, if you know what I'm sayin', and they were murdered a few years back by some do gooders.

It is a fact, these people have admitted they wanna take over the world, and we need to act now. It is already too late. I think the Govts are too gutless.

Nuf said.

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I have no problem with other cultures, so long as it doesn't interfere with or contradict everyone else in that area. Here, you don't even have to say anything remotely racist to be called racist. Like the "Nappy headed hos" comment of Don Imus. There's nothing racist about that at all. People of any race can have nappy heads and hos need only be female. And it's obvious the Rutgers girls have their hair straightened so who's to be offended? I guess Al Sharpton :roll: And yes, this country was originally declared open to people of all religions... yadda yadda, but as society expands on this continent (european society, sorry there Indians) and there are more federal laws and regulations, the room for people well outside the norm is getting much smaller. Just as "all men are created equal" meant "all white males with some wealth" in the 1700's, I'm pretty sure freedom of religion didn't mean freedom to make up all your own rules and laws by being a religious extremist just so you can ignore the rules everyone else must live by. I have no problem at all with someone being Muslim and peacefully following their beliefs as they see fit in their own homes and even in public so long as that doesn't interfere with other's daily lives. Government first, religion second. While I think religion often promotes more respectable values/morals, it's a slippery slope to put that ahead of your country and neighbors. Doing so creates conflicts that can't be fixed. I guess since I'm also not a fan of a powerful central government, I think anyone who goes into any sort of war (even a 'war on terror') should do it not for their country or for some religious reason. It should be for your beliefs only and MAYBE the well-being of your immediate family. Welp, I guess that's my rant.
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Thanks Scott, well said. I as well have no problems with any race or religion as long as you don't try and shove it down the throats of people who are not of the same belief. As the Muslims are doing in a lot of the country. In their eyes, you can either accept the fact that Muslim is going to rule the world or you can die. Well if that's the case, I will chose the latter. But it will be on my God's terms and not theirs.

I got an E-mail awhile ago called someone finally said it. It was titled proud to be white. It wasn't a racial term but more so pointing out the fact that other races in this country are calling whites racists because they speak out against them. By speaking out I don't mean racially. I mean when the other races find it okay to bash the white race with biggotry and slander, then when a white person says anything back in the same manner, they are the ones painted as racists.

Now I have several friends who are from one race or another black, white Native American, and so on, and they seemed to agree with this E-mail in that a racial term from anyones mouth regardless of race is still racist. Anyone who is not proud of their own race and totally unwilling to accept the fact that there are other races besides their own living possibly right across the street, then it is you who has the problem my friend, not me!!

Like Scott said, in not so many words. Live here if you will, but obey the laws of the land in which you are living, and not try to bring your laws with you from whatever far away land you came from. Practice whatever religion you feel is right for you, and by all means share it with your friends and neighbors, but if they don't feel it is in their field of play it isn't right that you feel they should be dead because they don't agree with your beliefs.


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While they plaster the news with the immigrants problems, we are left holding the bag and paying everyones bills.......here is a disturbing look at where it came from and where its headed.
I had no fear of immigrants/terrorists before 9-11 and I have no fear of them now,thats what the 44 mag is for......but there gunna lock down the streets and install a rfid in the new I.D. in 2008 to better protect us.......yeah right.
Also you better bury the guns now if you want to have one,thats the first thing the military did in new orleans is confiscate guns of citizens who can legaly posess guns that were registered.In other words they took guns away from legal citizens before they even brought food in.
After all we know why the government wants our guns ...........the same reason they were written into the Constitution ,to keep the government in check.

http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/amer...to_fascism.htm
This reveals lots of good info here.......
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AAAAmen!! It doesn't even matter who you vote for. Like you said, I fear not the terrorists, but my own government. It's really too bad that there are too many people out there that just don't care anymore enough to stand and tell the government enough is enough!!






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I agree with you guys. I stand up for traditional Judeo-Christian American values and am branded everything from a Nazi to a Homophobe to an Immigrant Hater.

I hate no-one I just want MY NATION TO be what it was and can be again. All praise to the God of Abraham,Jacob and Issac :!: :!: :!:


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A couple of years ago, many of the schools in Ausralia decided not to sing Christmas carols at Christmas time, so as not to affend the Muslims.

Last Christmas, it was mentioned in our newspaper, that any cards sent to Indonesia (who are Muslim) which contained Christian values, would not be allowed, and not be delivered.

Where is this all heading?

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One of the biggest problems with our country is our Government tries to be Politically correct too much. :roll:

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Ok Guys,Here I go.I do have a prob with other cultures.Not with color.We for years had one culture-AMERICAN.Thats not to say some things didnt blend,of course.I remember when I was a kid,I had a friend who was a Mexican,I mean his family came over LEGALLY.I didnt think anything of it and,one day my Dad asked him if he could speak Spanish.He said he could but,He wasnt allowed too.His Dad said"They were in AMERICA and,they were going to speak ENGLISH".But thats not what we have today.The people coming here have no intention of becoming AMERICAN.They think their culture should have superiority over ours.And I guess our politicians do too.We cant even pass a law to make ENGLISH the language.In fact around here if you are not Bilingual you WILL NOT be considered for a whole lot of jobs.
As far as religion goes,This Country was founded as a CHRISTIAN NATION.Now I know there are some who dont want to hear that and prob with good reason.That doesnt change facts.That being said and for that very reason America is a "wild card".THERE IS NO CHURCH STATE HOOKUP HERE.For that reason a Catholic doesnt practice the same as in a Catholic country.And so on down the line.We see it as "live and let live" religiously.
The Muslim doesnt see it that way.To Him WE should alter or culture to accommodate His.
As far as putting Country over God,no can do.Putting God first is not the prob,its WHAT God you serve that makes the difference.IF you go out and fight a war in the name of the "Church",I would say chances are good your fighting for the wrong reason.

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