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Woman who took down Colorado church shooter

What a woman!

"I saw him coming through the doors" and took cover, Assam said. "I came out of cover and identified myself and engaged him and took him down."

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I saw that on the news last night... Congrats to her and AMEN... It's a good thing she was there. Thanks be to God...



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I keep wondering how many churches have armed guards?

I think I read that that was the church the pastor had some financial/legal issues going and that she was his body guard when mass was not in session.

Bad situation for sure. Really sad that one man lost both his daughters.
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I wish the whole country was like that town in Florida I read about years ago. Everyone in the town was required to carry a firearm. They had the lowest crime rate in the country. I wish i could remember the name of the town now.
My dad and I are going to take a concealed carry course in the next week or two. I already carry in my truck but now I'll now legal.
I think she is a real hero and wish there were more like her around.
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I wish the whole country was like that town in Florida I read about years ago. Everyone in the town was required to carry a firearm. They had the lowest crime rate in the country. I wish i could remember the name of the town now.
My dad and I are going to take a concealed carry course in the next week or two. I already carry in my truck but now I'll now legal.
I think she is a real hero and wish there were more like her around.
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I'll second that, Criminals tend to seek unarmed people, Wonder why? :lol:
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I wish the whole country was like that town in Florida I read about years ago. Everyone in the town was required to carry a firearm. They had the lowest crime rate in the country. I wish i could remember the name of the town now.
My dad and I are going to take a concealed carry course in the next week or two. I already carry in my truck but now I'll now legal.
I think she is a real hero and wish there were more like her around.
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I'll second that, Criminals tend to seek unarmed people, Wonder why? :lol:
+3; Just ask England and Australia... :? HMMMM, again. Wonder why??



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ask the anti-gun people to carry a sign on their car and one on their house that says

"OWNER DOES NOT CARRY A GUN"
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"GUN FREE HOUSE"

and see how safe they feel?

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I think I read that that was the church the pastor had some financial/legal issues going and that she was his body guard when mass was not in session.
It was former pastor Ted Haggard's Church. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard

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She was form Minneapolis and you know what the news up here was about her? Not that she was a hero no, no. but that she lost her job with Minneapolis police department for swearing at bus driver. I almost threw up! Guns are bad, people who us them swear at bus driver's AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I think I just had a brain hemorrhage :?
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She was form Minneapolis and you know what the news up here was about her? Not that she was a hero no, no. but that she lost her job with Minneapolis police department for swearing at bus driver. I almost threw up! Guns are bad, people who us them swear at bus driver's AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I think I just had a brain hemorrhage :?
Typical of the media."If we dont like something slant it the way we do".

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Just ask England and Australia...
In Australia, the culture of gun ownership is very different to the USA. I don't wish to enter the debate about gun ownership and use in the USA, that debate is for Americans to discuss. I will however point out that in Australia, as gun laws tightened in the period 1991-2001, death by firearm fell by 47%. Of the 333 deaths in 2001, 256 were by suicide and 47 deaths were by homocide. The death rate by firearm in Australia in 2001 was 0.24 per 100,000 of population. In Australia, the overwhelming opinion is that the number of deaths prevented by limiting availabillty as opposed to prevention of crime through self defense is worthwhile. There is very little debate about limiting gun ownership here.
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Just ask England and Australia...
In Australia, the culture of gun ownership is very different to the USA. I don't wish to enter the debate about gun ownership and use in the USA, that debate is for Americans to discuss. I will however point out that in Australia, as gun laws tightened in the period 1991-2001, death by firearm fell by 47%. Of the 333 deaths in 2001, 256 were by suicide and 47 deaths were by homocide. The death rate by firearm in Australia in 2001 was 0.24 per 100,000 of population. In Australia, the overwhelming opinion is that the number of deaths prevented by limiting availabillty as opposed to prevention of crime through self defense is worthwhile. There is very little debate about limiting gun ownership here.
For the record: I do not own a gun, but I am opposed to gun control in any way shape or form for the very same reasons the founders of this country enacted the second amendment.....I don't trust the Governement. Furthermore, I believe that people that want guns will get guns, and gun control laws only prevent law abiding citizens from obtaining them.

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I feel like if a man or woman has it in their heart to hurt someone, not having a gun is not going to stop them. Now I know a crime of passion is more likely to happen when a firearm is handy but there are still fireplace pokers and kitchen knives.
If the government could guarantee me that no person will ever enter my house and hurt my family maybe I'd be willing to live with out a gun in the house. Until then I will have to take it upon myself to protect them the best way I know how.
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Just an odd observation, but between being fired as a cop and shooting a scumbag dead, how much you want to bet she shows up in some nudie mag ( like Playboy) within the next year?

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Just ask England and Australia...
In Australia, the culture of gun ownership is very different to the USA. I don't wish to enter the debate about gun ownership and use in the USA, that debate is for Americans to discuss. I will however point out that in Australia, as gun laws tightened in the period 1991-2001, death by firearm fell by 47%. Of the 333 deaths in 2001, 256 were by suicide and 47 deaths were by homocide. The death rate by firearm in Australia in 2001 was 0.24 per 100,000 of population. In Australia, the overwhelming opinion is that the number of deaths prevented by limiting availabillty as opposed to prevention of crime through self defense is worthwhile. There is very little debate about limiting gun ownership here.
Thats almost comical reading that, seems the anti gun crowd in down under claim there is no debate because hey look at the reduction in gun deaths (duh, umm there is a ban on firearms and you still have gun homicides get a clue it don't matter) and the rest of the country states very much there is a debate because other violent crime is UP over 400% including armed robbery, hot burglaries and RAPE so when your daughter is raped by a nut job who now knows he can get away with it because she isn't armed come back and tell us how well you think gun control is.
Only one segment of the crime statistics feel and you claim that gun bans are a success, which BTW is a lie in and of itself, yes gun deaths are down but total homicides are UP so ok they just went to a different method since the people that got murdered couldn't defend themself.
Then comes the other part of the equation and that being that in australia gun ownership was not a RIGHT, and only certian persons could even own one to begin with, so now you take it away from those people and yet even though there was restrictive gun laws to begin with and only a limited section of the population was disarmed it was still enough for crime rates to soar.

so the facts are gun ban only reduced by an insignificant number the amount of gun deaths but caused a rise in over all murders so now where is those lives that were saved?
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