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Need info on newer 4.6 modulars.

What are some good web forums for the Mustangs and there 281 modulars? Im looking at an 01 GT and need reading material for upgrading this car. Thanks to anyone who can help.

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i raced a blown two valve 4.6 for eight years. i now have a 3 valve 06 gt, and a 3 valve f250. the thing i have noted with mod motors> the small block power adder line of crap "its all in the tune man"....lol as another hi dollar forged short block spews busted parts thru the blower and both heads. another 20 grand down the drain.
.....build a fox body pushrod motor and save your self a lot of dough and grief.....fwiw bobn

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i raced a blown two valve 4.6 for eight years. i now have a 3 valve 06 gt, and a 3 valve f250. the thing i have noted with mod motors> the small block power adder line of crap "its all in the tune man"....lol as another hi dollar forged short block spews busted parts thru the blower and both heads. another 20 grand down the drain.
.....build a fox body pushrod motor and save your self a lot of dough and grief.....fwiw bobn

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So sad... But so true... The Mod-Motors are great engines in a sense, and can make alot of power, but like Bob said, dollar for dollar the pushrod motors are the way to go... Just my opinion as well...



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Now i have't raced one yet..thinking about building one. I have done my homework on them but go to turbomustangs.com and go to the modular section. There is guys on there stock block, cobra forged crank, stock 4v heads, cams and just putting forged pistons/rodson the shortblock making 1000+ hp the rear wheels easily. They motors seem to be holding up pretty good and for dollar to dollar. Its tough to build a 1k-1.5k shortblock for around 3k like they are doing in a pushrod motor

If your looking for a shortblock i would look into proline or modular mustang racing (holds the record). They are all priced reasonably
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Hey guys. Im not building a race engine im just buying an 01 Mustang GT with one in it and want to do a little reading so i know where im at with buying a few bolt ons for it. Thanks for the sites guys.

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Hey guys. Im not building a race engine im just buying an 01 Mustang GT with one in it and want to do a little reading so i know where im at with buying a few bolt ons for it. Thanks for the sites guys.

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Throw on a Rousch supercharger with a good exhaust and chip and be done with it. Plenty of power to scare them bowties.

I have a 2V 4.6L in my '97 F150 and it's a dog. Barely moves the truck around while getting 8mpg on good days. Gutless POS...
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there is a a problem with the mod motors and thats lack of aftermarket, hell there are maybe 1 or 2 aftermarket heads for the motors if that. They are also quite expensive, however, if you are insistent upon it, then get urself a dart block, and a cobra cank with some forged rods and pistons, and add either a blower or turbo. the 4v teskid aluminum or even the cobra iron blocks are all good for at least 1200 hp stock, and so is the crank. talk to sean highland, i think thats how you spell it. google him he knows everything about these motors.

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dollar for dollar,from scratch yes the push rods are,better,but ive never seen a stock production,heads cam,block,crank ect stay together at 650hp,like up oh........the 03-04 cobra engines.STOCK PRODUCTION SMALL BLOCKS.yes they are expensive to build,but when built right they are impressive.
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Mine runs really good its a 96 which was the worst years and the first for the 4.6 in a Mustang. Runs alright have a cold air intake, trick flow plenum and bigger throttle body. Gets around 20 mpg and has 150,000 plus miles with nothing changed but the oil, spark plugs and some new wires. I like them but not as easy to work on as a pushrod motor. But overall I like them.

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If you're staying NA, my advice is to forget about dreams of adding 50hp NA...and concentrate on the low hanging fruit.

Mufflers, a filter, pulleys. Changing the exhaust manifolds does nearly nothing. Changing the exhaust tubing does nearly nothing as well. Cams move the power band around and tend to make it more doggy off the line...I've never been happy with an NA cam swap in a modular for a street car. You can sink a lot of energy into trying to get more than an additional 20hp NA...it just isn't very attainable without side effects that make the car less fun to drive.

Instead, spend money on things like suspension and brakes and rear gears...that will had a lot more grin factor for the buck.

Or, if horsepower is your thing, go directly to a blower kit for substantial gains and make sure you use a conservative tuner. Don't exceed 400rwhp. Don't let it ping...EVER.

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If I were doing a mod motor the person I would deal with is Al Papitto @ boss330racing.com. He is in Vero Beach Florida which is a long way from you but, his work is second to none and he is very respected in the mod motor arena. Take a look at the links of his naturally aspirated 5.4 mustang....Ken

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