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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-09-2008, 10:14 PM Thread Starter
 
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problems getting car ready for the bash!

So I pulled the 460 to do a few things and it needed to be cleaned up - had a few scratches and a decent sized pit in one of the cylinder walls. The local shop has a 6 week turn around (4 weeks ago) so I gather up my trusty 429 (first bigblock I ever had) paint it and drop it into the 'stang.
It ran great.
Then it spit a bit of water from the radiator cap. Hmmm. And some water was missing from the radiator. Hmmm. The oil looked just a bit milky. Hmmmm. So it has problems.
Probably head gaskets.
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Personally, I'd investigate the corners of the intake manifold gasket first.

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James,

Sure wish I had a spare engine for you to borrow What about our neighbor Bruce? Does he have a spare? I talked to him the other day and he's still up in the air about going to the BBF Bash.



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Just go over to lems and plop down 60 large for one of them pretty boat motors......
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Just go over to lems and plop down 60 large for one of them pretty boat motors......
Good Call! :mrgreen:
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If excessive force doesn't work, your not using nearly enough.

If it breaks, it was going to fail anyhow, and you needed a new one.........
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I had Bruce do my trans. this winter - he did a great job on it. I don't think he has any spare bigblocks laying around - he likes those pesky turbo 4 cylinders! I'll give him a call anyway.

I'll pull the intake first and examine as I go to find the offending part(s). The engine is a virgin 429 from a early 70s Mercury Montego. It sat for 7 years or so in a garage - I expected it to be fine... :cry:

I took the girlfriend for a ride last night (to do some diagnosing) it sure is weird to have such a smooth running engine in the 'stang! I could almost get used to it being so civilized... NAAA! The next engine will be a hoss, I'm working with the local shop to get something together. Maybe not Damon fast, but it'll move! :twisted:
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i have seen the timing cover erode thru and dump coolant into the oil aswell. be my guess if the intake gasket is not the issue.

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Update on getting the 'stang going again

I pulled the engine and got it torn down, there was a disappointing amount of evidence as to how water got into the oil. The engine certainly looked to be factory sealed.
I'm guessing it was head gasket(s), because there was a bit too much pressure in the cooling system.
The cylinder bores look great, the one bearing I looked at looked fine, and it rotates very smooth. So the shortblock will stay together.
Oh yeah- I'll get it ready! :!:
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That's good news! See you next Thursday!



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James,

Dan and I may be testing at Ohio Valley on Friday. I'll keep you posted.



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Good deal James, and I hope you get it ready for the Bash. I'm biting my fingernails now with a differential problem. I'm going to rebuild the old traction lock, if I can't get the locker to work. I was hoping to not turn any wrenches this week, because it's real rough with work to do both.

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I have a std set of New Rod bearing "HP" for a 460. I'll donate them to you if ya need them!

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S_stang: Thanks for the generous offer - I'm going to keep the shortblock together, including the bearings as the sample looked good.

I got most everything cleaned up and bolted the heads on last night. I was wondering about changing the valve springs... What is an acceptable pressure (installed height and open)for spinning 5000 RPM? I guess it would be different for whatever valvetrain pieces are installed - nothing fancy here. All stock '72 or '73 429 stuff.

Odds are I will have the 460 back in May, so this is just a quick fix so I don't miss the Bash and NMCA Bowling Green.
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