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Torque converter took a dump...

So, my daily driver, a '97 Explorer,which I bought new, may be done :evil: ! The vehicle only had 127,000 miles on it. Changed the tranny fluid and filter at least twice, that I can remember, 49,000 and 102,000 miles. The O/D light came on yesterday, and kept blinking. Put a scope on it, and it said the T/C was slipping. So, now, do I drop the money to fix it, or sell it for what I can, and buy something else? Any opinions on this? Any ideas what it will cost. Thanks guys. This is bad because the wife just lost her job, so money is TIGHT. I guess this is a little speed bump, compared to others problems.
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If it still clean and is having no other problems I'd fix it.

I'm guessing a complete rebuild with a good warrenty would be in the $2000-$2500 range for one of those.

If its wooped on and realy showing its age I'd trade it in and get something else........
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Thanks for the reply. It's pretty clean, other than the carpet. I have had the seats covered with bedsheets since day one. Three dings, and that's it. I have heard that these vehicles are also known for having head gasket issues (4.0 liter). I've changed the oil every 3500 miles. The vehicle just makes me nervous, because of the mileage. I would hate to put the work into it, and then, have something else major happen. That is kinda why I was asking for opinions. Thanks again.
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A guy here at work just had the same problem. The trans. shop he went to got him for $1800 I think. Ouch.

If you try to sell it the flashing OD light will really hurt resale - fixing it may be a better option.
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might be depending on your area. here in minn/wisc a 11 year old vehicle is worth 500 bucks. heck my three year old SD f250 is only worth 9 grand....bobn
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Our family use '96 explorer is at 216,000 miles. The O/D blinks on ours too, but that's because the speedometer gear in the transfer case is stripped because the rear bearing housing is worn in the transfer case. I just had the transfer case out last month because the chain was stretched. I noticed the bearing play when I put in the new chain. It was cold and wet so I just put it back together. Now I've gotta pull it back out. I'm waiting for a few good warm days in a row to pull it this time. You could try some fluid conditioner additive for the torque converter. My '92 F150 had torque converter shudder/slip at 150,000, after a full fluid exchange (cost $100) it still shuddered, but not as bad. I can't remember which brand additive I put in it, but it fixed it. It's still running great with 263,000 miles now.

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Thanks for the input. I may bite the bullet and have it rebuilt. It runs really well, and I am the original owner. It's not a puff, but it is in better than average condition.
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Tom, I don't know if your Explorer has the 4.6/4R70W combination, or if it's a 5.0 If it's a 4.6, and the torque converters are the same, I have a good one from a 2002 Crown Vic. I'll give it to you. 8)

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Look at it this way..... $2000-2500 for a trans rebuild and probably another 50-100k miles if your maitaining it like you seem to be or about $30-40k for a new one........

$2500 is about 4 payments on a new one @ 60 months ...... Will the trans get you another 6 months......12 months?
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If your Explorer is a V-6,the trans is a 5R55E,and they had issues with the valvebody gaskets,does it shift soft or slip in any gear?? You can pull the pan and adjust the line pressure up a little,it may help. For the guy with the loose speedo gear,have you tried pulling the driveshaft and tightening the nut??

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Dont know if this will help but my tbird had this problem, Ford made some kind of cleaner that you put in the tranny and drove it a couple miles then change the fluid and they had an additive the would make it stop slipping
now they have a new tranns oil that is real slippery that works great.
Talk to a Ford tech on this and not a localtrans shop could save you some money.
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If your Explorer is a V-6,the trans is a 5R55E,and they had issues with the valvebody gaskets,does it shift soft or slip in any gear?? You can pull the pan and adjust the line pressure up a little,it may help. For the guy with the loose speedo gear,have you tried pulling the driveshaft and tightening the nut??
The speedo gear teeth are stripped off because the bearing was allowing the output shaft to move away from the teeth on the speed sender gear. As for the flange nut, I took it off with my 1/2" impact wrench and put it on with it also. I don't know what it was torqued to, but didn't figure it'd matter much since the bearing doesn't need any preload.

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Thanks for all the replies guys. Hey Pat, thanks for the offer, really. It is a 4.0 liter, and I'm am going round about this with my wife :roll:. I put some Lucas additive in it, and it really seems to have helped it some. Heck, I never knew there was a problem until the flashing O/D light. I realize that the fliud is just a bandaid, but it may help long enough to get me by. Thanks for all the input, and we'll wait and see how it plays out.
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I call them exploders. They are known for tranny problems (especially the earlier ones). My wife had one and we traded it in at about 130,000 miles and I think it probably only had about 10,000 miles left on the tranny the way it felt. Hers was a 1998 model.

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