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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 04-21-2008, 11:03 AM Thread Starter
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On Friday my uncle drug in a rare find. It is a 1969 Ford Custom, 2 door post, police cruiser with a 428 engine. My dad is good with old Fords and he said that is the first one that he has ever seen. The fifth digit on the tag is a P and this thing has not been tampered with at all. All the vaccum lines have never been removed. The previous owner said the car had been sitting since 1973 and on blacktop so it is very fixable. Dad is already talking about fixing the body and putting a 500" BBF with the new Kaase Boss heads and a 6 speed transmission. I guess that would be one of a kind.

Does anyone know where I could find more information about the car, like how many, engine codes, etc?

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Too Cool! can i have it?

What's he going to do with the 428?



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You can contact Marti Auto Works out of Arizona 623-935-2558. Give them the VIN and for $40 the report will tell how many were produced with that eng/trans code etc., takes about a week. My guess is less than 100. 8) Nice find!

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Though I love the 385 Series, I'd be more inclined to restore it & keep the 428....be worth the $$ for the Marti Report as Rick mentioned. I can see it in basic white, or black, with dog dish caps, blackwall tires, & a stroker 428 courtesy of Barry at Survival...all completely disguised under the hood. :mrgreen:

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Though I love the 385 Series, I'd be more inclined to restore it & keep the 428....be worth the $$ for the Marti Report as Rick mentioned. I can see it in basic white, or black, with dog dish caps, blackwall tires, & a stroker 428 courtesy of Barry at Survival...all completely disguised under the hood. :mrgreen:
I guess I am somewhat of a purist when it comes to the oddball cars that could be considered rare. If the car was a 390 Custom post and a buddy needed the motor for his truck, I would say go for it. However, you watch these old big-block Interceptors that once chased the very cars that are so popular$$$ today...their time will come, albeit to a lesser degree.

A parting out numbers matching '72 429 PI Galaxie 500 sedan was listed here on the auction block a few months back. I sent the seller a cashiers check, he sends me an email the next day stating he sold the car(from under me, with no other prospective buyer). He even managed to sign the back of the check, however he did send the check back. The buyer probably wanted the stupid @#$%^&* D2OE heads off it. The car was rough but restorable and is now most likely headed for the crusher. After doing a Marti on the car and all the BS, the car was 1 of 211 built with the 429PI and Z-code C-6(first gear lock-out). To most, it is just a big ugly sedan, to me it is a somewhat rare piece of big-block police car history. I am still ticked off. The only way an Interceptor is worth anything is having the numbers matching drivetrain or factory stamped replacement engine. This is just my opinion...if the car is not too far gone, keep 'em together...it just may payoff someday.

On a side note, I have saved a few '70-'71 Dodge/Plymouth 440 Interceptors from the crusher and did partial restorations with little investment; one sold for $12,000. I had been looking for a 429PI for years, they just do not exist because everyone pulled the drivetrains back in the late 70's-80's...sorry for the rant :cry: :lol:

Homespun is on the right track...super sleeper...mothball the original block and build a stroker FE for street thrashing. I have only heard of two other '69 P-code 2 drs. in the last 20 years...maybe yours is one of them.

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Here is what I have found out about the car so far with some Google searching. The VIN number is 9U50P157500.

9: 1969
U: Louisville, KY
50: 2 door Custom Sedan
P: 428 Police Interceptor 360 HP 10.5:1 compression
157500: Sequential Serial Number

I also found that there were 15,000 or so custom sedans built in 1969. But I am still wondering how many were 428 police interceptors.

I haven't looked at the tag on the door yet. That should tell me the colors, gear ratio, etc.

I think my uncle has decided to keep it all together which I think is a good idea.

The website that gave me this information was www.decodethis.com. This is the first time I have really searched a cars past and I have to say it is a lot of fun. If I find out any more information, I will let you know.

If any of you have any additional input, please let me know.
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The Trans will be the U-code C-6 as Ford was not experimenting with the first gear lock out yet...cops would forget they were in low gear on a chase and blow the motor or downshift too early with the same result. :lol: Axle is either the standard '6' 3.00 or '4' 2.80 optional. If it has a T-Lok, which is rare, 'O' or 'M' respectively. 31-spline axles. These cars had great top-end speed and were capable of burying the 140 speedo...all on high performance bias-plys nonetheless. :shock:

Marti is still the best bet on the eng/trans production. As I said before, the number of two-door P codes is very low for any year as they were eventually phased out of fleet use. Let us know what you find.

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I would not butcher a rare original car by throwing a 385 based engine in there, as if it were a 240 or 302 car. There are plenty of clean Custom sedans out there for cheap, I would encourage you not to waste a rare car.
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There was one for sale like that here last summer/fall. I don't know what happened to it. The last time I saw it was at a local collector car auction. It was black/black factory 428.

There was plenty of evidence that the car was used as a "cop car". It still had some goofy control of some sort on the floor by the dimmer switch. It was pretty rough. Needed a total resto, lower fenders, quaters rusted etc.

When they had it advertise it was for a couple grand or something. Seems pretty high to me so I didn't give it much thought. Probably pretty rare either way. I didn't look at the vin # but I remember seeing the paperwork on it.

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There was one for sale like that here last summer/fall. I don't know what happened to it. The last time I saw it was at a local collector car auction. It was black/black factory 428.

There was plenty of evidence that the car was used as a "cop car". It still had some goofy control of some sort on the floor by the dimmer switch. It was pretty rough. Needed a total resto, lower fenders, quaters rusted etc.

When they had it advertise it was for a couple grand or something. Seems pretty high to me so I didn't give it much thought. Probably pretty rare either way. I didn't look at the vin # but I remember seeing the paperwork on it.
Pretty good chance it was the real deal. In '69-'70, the only full size Fords to get the 428 were the 'P' code police cars. Although available in '68, the 385 series were not used as the top engine option in the full size police line-up until '71. A 429 2bbl. was available as an secondary engine option, the 428 PI remained the top dog. I guess they didn't trust the new mill back then after the FE had been tried and trued.

Most of these cars were abused and put away wet...you really have to like old squads to make a resto. worth it. The '72 I was looking at had no trunk floor left, the trunk was left open for 20 years :lol: However, it still had the fuel pump block off plate(the '72 429 PI used an electric in-tank pump)rear sway bar, huge coils, HD frame, cold air intake going to the rad. support, etc. all items that were PI only, not even offered on a run of the mill 429 LTD. The P-code cars were a little more 'trick' than what was offered to the pubic as the Interceptors are today...with a a BBF to boot. 8)

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The part that has me stumped. is that it's a 2 dr. Sedan car, not a 4 dr. So I was talking to Poppa Joe Mayabb yesterday, and being the car is from eastern Kentucky,,,,I'm thinking it was a ATF revenuer's car. Possibly more of a "chase" car, than anything.

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I would not butcher a rare original car by throwing a 385 based engine in there, as if it were a 240 or 302 car. There are plenty of clean Custom sedans out there for cheap, I would encourage you not to waste a rare car.

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While we are on the subject...

I realize this is a Ford forum, however I am taking advantage of the rare topic of old squads. I found some pics of the old '71 Dodge Polara Custom WSP I sold, complete with the original 440HP and 727TF. The car was a garage find that I picked it up for $2000, didn't run. I got it running, did the seats, carpet, trans, exhaust, etc, probably had $5000 invested total and countless hours getting it back to where it should be.

We use to live near the King County Sherrif's station, the cops used to rubber neck and give the thumbs up(it's a good thing they did not witness the smoky burnouts :lol: ). The car was bad *** and at 116k miles would still bury the 140 speedo. The car is now in Ca. and the owner wants to sell it back to me as of recently, says it belongs in Wa. I intended to buy the '72 429PI to replace it and keep...my blood bleeds Blue. :lol:

Oh yeah...best et: [email protected] on stickies 4400lbs. 98% stock(recurved dizzy,exhaust). Not bad...

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Cool...

That's a cool car Rick. 8)

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To go along with Charlie's idea a good friend of mine has a 65 Ford custom two door that had a 428 in it with aerodynamic head light covers on it. Was said to be a FBI car.

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