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Little by little they are whiitling away at the gun laws and your right to bear arms. Keep this all in mind when your standing at the "voting box" this year submitting your vote.

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That's our government for ya... What a bunch of bull... Seems they were just looking for "something" so they just tried a different type of ammo until they could make the gun malfunction... I had the same thing happen to me while I was in basic training, we were on the firing line during qualification with the M-16 and my rifle just started firing multiple shots while in semi-auto mode... The one drill sergeant at the range wanted me arrested because he thought I'd tampered with the sear engagement on the rifle... :shock: :shock: :shock: After several armorers had checked it out, they all agreed that the sear was just worn out...




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I may be dating myself(HA), but when I was in basic training we found that you could wedge a piece of a patch in the sear of an M-1, and "unload" all 8 at once. Also, at the National Matches, Camp Perry in 1988, I had my 45 wad gun "double" on me during the second string of the 50 yard slow fire match. Did that make it a machine pistol???

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This is no longer "our" goverment....
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I may be dating myself(HA), but when I was in basic training we found that you could wedge a piece of a patch in the sear of an M-1, and "unload" all 8 at once. Also, at the National Matches, Camp Perry in 1988, I had my 45 wad gun "double" on me during the second string of the 50 yard slow fire match. Did that make it a machine pistol???

Did you really mean all 8 at once(!!!! :shock: !!!!), or just 8 in a row, really fast??!!!
Sorry, just being the jerk that I really am.......
What did the double on your .45 do for your score?? :lol:
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there is more to this story than meets the eye. it was not just a malfunction. there was a unmarked position on the frame for the selector switch to move to. fwiw.....bobn
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there is more to this story than meets the eye. it was not just a malfunction. there was a unmarked position on the frame for the selector switch to move to. fwiw.....bobn
BUT, if there were no M-16 parts in the gun, which there could not have been because BATFE would not have failed to notice them, then whether or not he had monkeyed with the selector switch, there would be no auto sear for the selector switch to activate. It "sounds" like this was a malfunctioning gun. Of course, I have no firsthand knowlege of the case. But AR's have floating firing pins, and they are surely NOT supposed to be used with ammo that has "soft' primers, as any handloader who owns a M-1, M14, SKS, or AR knows. I bet BATFE knows that, too......
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Yep, which is why the manual that comes with those guns says to NOT use reloaded ammo. It's to keep people from using soft primers or not fully seated primers and thereby causing a potential slam fire. Personally, I see no problem with citizens having full auto guns. Just like I think some felons (tax evasion and the like) should be allowed to have guns too.

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When a semi-auto pistol "doubles" it means just that...DOUBLE...2 rounds. :roll:

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OK, so how did he get caught?
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a conservation officer or range officer probably overheard it shooting

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He loaned it to a friend and they were at a county/city riffle range and it went auto and someone at the facility called the authorities.

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When a semi-auto pistol "doubles" it means just that...DOUBLE...2 rounds. :roll:
Chuck, who were you replying to with this comment?
If it was me, the "8 round" remark referred to your M-1, the double remark was in reference to the 1911 pistol.
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The old "patch in the sear trick" will usually get off 4 or 5 rounds, sometimes...all 8, from a M-1 Garand.

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