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Questions for the survivalists, weapons experts, etc

Hey guys,

I have a young family and I'm starting to get together some basic disaster supplies. The goal right now is just to be able to defend my family of 5 in case of emergency/looting/natural disaster/terrorist threat/etc. Or give my family the tools and reference material to make it on their own should something happen to me.

Things already on my list:

1. Gun safe
2. Remington 870 tactical shotgun
3. Thinking about an AR15, not sure about 9mm or .223 version
4. Would like a .45 handgun eventually
5. Putting together a 72 hour supply kit - non-perishable food, water, 1st aid, radio, blankets, cash, MANY other supplies - see any 72 hour kit checklist online such as http://www.dola.state.co.us/dem/publ...rgency_kit.htm
6. Printed off FEMA's complete disaster guide and put in 3 ring binder for reference
7. Want a good "outdoor survival" reference book, should the need go well beyond 72 hours


Would like everyone's thoughts on the following:

1. 9mm AR15 worth it over the .223 version?
2. Worth getting quality gas masks and extra canisters?
3. Best survival reference books?
4. Anything else to add to the list?

Thanks for any replies.

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do you know something we don't? :shock:


are you expecting a nuclear war or such?



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do you know something we don't? :shock:


are you expecting a nuclear war or such?



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Just like to be prepared. Most of this stuff in the 72 hour kit people have laying around their houses/garages anyway, just a matter of putting some of it together "just in case".

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do you live in a rural area or a city?

I would go with a .223 over a 9mm for the range.




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5. Putting together a 72 hour supply kit - non-perishable food, water, 1st aid, radio, blankets, cash, MANY other supplies - see any 72 hour kit checklist online such as http://www.dola.state.co.us/dem/publ...rgency_kit.htm
I have a 72 month supply 8)

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do you live in a rural area or a city?

I would go with a .223 over a 9mm for the range.




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5. Putting together a 72 hour supply kit - non-perishable food, water, 1st aid, radio, blankets, cash, MANY other supplies - see any 72 hour kit checklist online such as http://www.dola.state.co.us/dem/publ...rgency_kit.htm
I have a 72 month supply 8)
I live on the edge of the city/suburb. To my south and east it's pretty rural, to my north there's a decent sized city.

Yeah, I don't have the cash for a 72 month supply of anything right now, LOL. Just want some basic defense and survival gear.

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I would kepp a min of $500 on hand

bullets and more bullets

http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/

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I would kepp a min of $500 on hand

bullets and more bullets

http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/
Thanks man. You have a good survival knife preference?

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here are the book I am buying. I already know and have the tools/supplies to garden (I plant one twice a year). I have enough guns to get by. I have most of the other stuff like tools, supplies, etc from living in the country. I am approaching this more from a long term deal than a 'few days' deal. I work in the power industry and I know how easy it would be to put most of the USA in the black for weeks if not months.


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...X0DER&v=glance


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I wouldn't think basic survival would be too terribly tough. Heck, I used to spend over a month in the Yellowstone backcountry at a time with no electricity, car, radio, running water.. and it was a hoot. Good days that I miss. Now, I realize a ****-hits-fan situation where you have to deal with other people that may be completely out of their minds when they've lost their saturday morning cartoons is going to be a bit different. I'd go with the .223 caliber. OR, a SAIGA or FAL in .308 so it can double as a hunting gun. Actually, if it's going to be used more for hunting than self defense but needs to be an auto with longer range, a Browning BAR would do dandy.

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Im thinking gas would be up on the list too.
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Im thinking gas would be up on the list too.
I have a 300 gal diesel tank for my tractors, etc, but I also keep at least 20 gallons of gas at the house in cans at all times. Just swap them out every once in a while.

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Think smaller for your ammo. I'd prefer .22cal riffle and 9mm handgun. You can carry a butt load of .22 bullets and with the proper shooting and be able to take down what ever food supply you will need. I also like the back pack rifle. Has a .22 riffle on top and your choice of either a 410, 20 or 12ga on the bottom. If you use that riffle you can use the short .22 or the .22 maxi-mag. (I preffer the maxi-mag.)

What would you rather be toting around?

SOG in my opinion is the only way to go for a knife.

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.223 or .308?

I'm trying to decide what to pick up also, while they are still available. Looked at a sig sauer .556 the other day, very nice but are only available in .223. Most gun shops around have had a substantial sales increase recently and are sold out of almost anything .308 semi auto.
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Last time I looked, .223 and .308 are currently being used by our military. Something to keep in mind. You can put 500 .22 cal rounds in your cargo pocket of your pants. You need some way to get clean water.


I remembered hearing about the rule of 3's put out by (I think) the military.


You will only survive 3 seconds without thinking...
3 minutes without air...
3 hours without shelter...
3 days without water...
3 weeks without food...
3 months without hope....

Not my rules, as I said, but gives you something to think about.

I also tell my family and friends, " When you can't go to the grocery store and get toilet paper, you know the **** has hit the fan. "

Ellen gets mad when I say we don't need a generator, because there won't be any gas for it when they burn down everything.

Ammo, ammo, ammo. I bet you could even trade it for food. Whether they want to or not.

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Re: Questions for the survivalists, weapons experts, etc

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2. Worth getting quality gas masks and extra canisters?
Unless you know somethings coming ahead of time or are planning on wearing it all the time. Dont bother it will be too late by the time you notice anything. Now if your expecting to encounter cs gas from riot police or military or even civilian that's a different story, by all means it beats sucking down that crap.
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