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Military Casualties

Military Losses, 1980 thru 2006

Whatever your politics, however you lean, however you feel about the current administration, this report should open some eyes.

Military losses, 1980 through 2006 (http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf)

As tragic as the loss of any member of the US Armed Forces is, consider the following statistics:

The annual fatalities of military members while actively serving in the armed forces from 1980 through 2006:

1980 .......... 2,392 (Carter Year)
1981 .......... 2,380 (Reagan Year)
1984 .......... 1,999 (Reagan Year)
1988 .......... 1,819 (Reagan Year)
1989 .......... 1,636 (George H W Year)
1990 .......... 1,508 (George H W Year)
1991 .......... 1,787 (George H W Year)
1992 .......... 1,293 (George H W Year)
1993 .......... 1,213 ( Clinton Year)
1994 .......... 1,075 ( Clinton Year)
1995 .......... 2,465 ( Clinton Year)
1996 .......... 2,318 ( Clinton Year)
1997 ............. 817 ( Clinton Year)
1998 .......... 2,252 ( Clinton Year)
1999 .......... 1,984 ( Clinton Year)
2000 .......... 1,983 ( Clinton Year)
2001 ............. 890 (George W Year)
2002 .......... 1,007 (George W Year)
2003 .......... 1,410 (George W Year)
2004 .......... 1,887 (George W Year)
2005 ............. 919 (George W Year)
2006 ............. 920 (George W Year)
2007 ............. 899 (George W Year)

Clinton years (1993-2000): 14,000 deaths
George W years (2001-2006): 7,932 deaths

If you are surprised when you look at these figures, so was I. These figures mean that the loss from the two latest conflicts in the Middle East are LESS than the loss of military personnel during Bill Clinton's presidency; when America wasn't even involved in a war!

And, I was even more shocked when I read that in 1980, during the reign of President (Nobel Peace Prize winner) Jimmy Carter, there were 2,392 US military fatalities! I think that these figures indicate that many members of our Media and our Politicians will pick and choose the information on which they report. Of course we all know that they present only those 'facts' which support their agenda-driven reporting. But why do s o many of them march in lock-step to twist the truth? Where do so many of them get their marching-orders for their agenda? Obviously there is one shared agenda, and I believe it is clear it comes from the most powerful Democratic family of the decade.

Do you want further proof? Consider the latest census, of Americans. It shows the following FACTS about the distribution of American citizens, by Race:

European descent ............................69.12%
Hispanic ......................................... 12.5%
Black ............................................. 12.3%
Asian .............................................. 3.7%
Native American ................................1.0%
Other ..............................................2.6%

Now... here are the fatalities by Race; over the past three years in Iraqi Freedom:

European descent (white) ................74.31%
Hispanic ........................................ 10.74%
Black ............................................. 9.67%
Asian ............................................. 1.81%
Native American ............................... 1.09%
Other ............................................. 0.33%

I was surprised again . . .until it became clear to me that the point here is that our mainstream media continues to spin these figures (for political gain). Nothing more.

It's all about politics and some politicians, are now famous for turning American against American for a vote. (Consider Slick Willy and his comments just recently made about South Carolina, Jesse Jackson, and the 'blacks' voting for the 'black' candidates); or Hillary's stump speech after her Super Tuesday 'victory' stating that the current administration does not 'listen' to anyone and continues the war costing precious American lives. Yes, I might even agree with her, but she should be made to acknowledge her own husband's administration, without having an actual war, sent more soldiers to death during his regime-while also forcing the military to release Osama when we actually had him detained.

I hope that during the time between now and November, that intelligent Americans can decipher the facts from the spin and the spinners from the leaders; those who seek even more power from those that seek justice, the dividers from the uniters.

Over the next months let's be good listeners (yes, Obama we are listening) and see and hear who tries to divide our nation; and who wants to unite our nation. Who wants to control how our money is spent and who wants our money spent the way we would spend it. Who seeks power and who seeks justice?

Who spins the facts and who is genuine.

(These statistics are published by Congressional Research Service, and they may be confirmed by anyone at: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf )
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That leaves out the Fact that there are a Lot 130 K+ of contractors (Blackwater type) that are there now (Sandbox and the Ghan) and many Have been killed. I have heard the number 7600 wounded and 700 some killed but that is unsubstantiated and has no timeline. These deaths are Not reported in usual figures...believe half of what you hear, and think who is reporting. I like this old saying from the Chinese,- When drinking Water, consider the Well.
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And do you believe everything you read ? i dont and why is there two years missing from the great Bush w record ? sounds to me like the report came from the republican side of congress maybe ? and brian f i agree with your saying its so very true.
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I have been preaching that fact about the casualties FOREVER! Nobody ever wanted to listen to me.....Only reason it seemed like soooo many under Bush is that they were plastered all over the news! When my boy Bill was in office, we all had money to spare, and gas was cheap-so no cared who lived or died.
Bush on the other had a failing economy (thanks to reagan and Bill) and high gas prices---so people were already pissed off!
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And do you believe everything you read ? i dont and why is there two years missing from the great Bush w record ? sounds to me like the report came from the republican side of congress maybe ? and brian f i agree with your saying its so very true.

Actually its only missing 1 year. It was a typo, it totals from 2000-2007 cause I just checked and totaled it right now.


btw where did we loose all those guys( and gals I suppose to be PC) in the Clinton era?
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I can see in my crystal ball a lock thread in the near future.
Man , I can hardly wait for them to lock it!!I'll bet that none of the fatalities where in a BBF.

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Bush on the other had a failing economy (thanks to reagan and Bill) /quote]

??? That's a new one to me

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Another little known fact....

99.9999% of children born in this country have a woman as the birth parent. We really need to have someone look into this. Its appaling that it hasn't been brought to the attention of the Public, another issue hidden by the Left leaning liberal press. Sure there have been a few "legal" males, that have given birth - but we all know how that works. A few ringers will always find a way to slant the overwhelming evidence.

This startling information needs to be publicized, feel free to pass on these statistics. The truth is out there!

Like it or not...death takes its tax...always!
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Man , I can hardly wait for them to lock it!!I'll bet that none of the fatalities where in a BBF.

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