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Oil filter question

I have been using a Motorcraft FL-1HP oil filter on my 460 in my Superformance Cobra. Is this a good filter, and/or is there something better I should be looking at. The car does not really get raced, maybe an autosross once or twice a year.

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nothing wrong with what your using IMO
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The HP is a good filter .

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Jomar

Not for a total street ride, No by pass, but they are great for a race cars, one just saved my *** on the dyno in KY !!
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sorry for the wrong info Dave --- educate me on the bypass thing ???



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Jomar is a good filter .

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Jomar is an Awsome Filter, But it does not have a bypass if anything gets clogged or oil is way cold on start-up. Typicaly on a street car you want the bypass incase the filter gets plugged or cold weather operation.
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Speaking of race oil filters....the Ford filters fit Mopars also and we have Jomar filters for the Chevy engines also .

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Thanks for the imformation.

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Anyone run the K&N performance oil filter??
Just wondering about pro's and con's.

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Anyone run the K&N performance oil filter??
Just wondering about pro's and con's.

thats all i ran on my old motor --- never had any negative issues that i know of ...... ive switched to Jomar



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Like most have mentioned.....

.... all the oil filter's mentioned in this topic are very good oil filters. I would like to add a comment, if I may? The Jomar part does not contain a by-pass option. I have used these filters (Jomar) with the utmost confidence, and not one worry or problem to date. Although I would like to mention, just in case the filter malfunctions, becomes clogged or damaged, the oil to your engine may be interrupted! ....... Causing you know what! A lazy oil pressure reading may also indicate something going on inside the filter.

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WE USE THEM OURSELVES....

Trying to stay out of a pissing contest here, but JA and I and a lot of friends around us use these in street (performance) applications as well as race. It's an old story but if you haven't heard it, we screwed up his FE for the 63 1/2 Galaxie when we wiped the flat tappet cam on the dyno while trying some experimental rocker arm adjusters. We thought about an adapter to run a Chevy filter, but decided to design and see if we could get some filters manufactured to our specs.

Things like multi-vis oil, proper warm-up, oil pressure gauges and even idiot lights make running no-bypas filter kind of a no-brainer, but as I've stated elsewhere YMMV! Our filter has over twice the media area of some of the competitors, more than any we've cut apart, and is 18-20 micron rated so it flows a lot of oil and stops the important chunks.

We don't "pressure" anybody to run the no-bypass filter, just try to provide the facts and let people decide for themselves. No hard feelings if you feel more comfortable with a bypass valve.

BTW, JA (Old Jomar) and his previous partner probably built over 3000 engines all with bypass blocked (Chevy) or remote full-flow filtration on Fords etc. Never had a problem with somebody "plugging" a filter and destroying an engine.

My question is this - what the heck is plugging the filter (given the issue that previous posts have referred to as in "street" application) and what would be the advantage of having a bypass valve pop open and distribute all that junk to the bearings and piston skirts?

We've had reports from a dozen or more customers who have wasted cams, lifters, roller rockers etc. (and my MSD distributor base) and who have had all of the junk get captured in the filter. It will hold a lot of debris before the oil pressure drops, and I don't think that anybody was unaware they had a problem. I just can't logically conceive that a drop in oil pressure will be the first indication that something is wrong!!!

Hope this doesn't muddy the waters too much.



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ps. we've flow tested and cut apart about every major brand (Ford app.) filter out there - and they all have bypass valves. And most of them had more pressure drop at 8 gpm with their little bypass valves open than ours did still running "full-flow".

As far as "conventional" filters go, we can state with relative certainty that FL1-HP, K&N, Mobil one, and Moroso are all very good filters - with the caveat that some of these vendors appear to have a tendency to vary their product's construction without notice - perhaps shifting to a lower bidder.... There are just not that many manufacturers making filters in the USA anymore. It comes down to initial engineering, specification, testing, and then checking each shipment to make sure the filters are actually what were ordered.

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I decided to run a system one filter based on the recommendation of a machinist that I respect. Being able to inspect the filter is the best peace of mind available for any engine, IMHO.

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