Ladder bars or 4 link? - 460 Ford Forum
Chilly's Garage A place for non-460 banter.

User Tag List

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2009, 04:38 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
56tbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Hawesville,Ky.
Posts: 2,960
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Ladder bars or 4 link?

Ok ,guys I'm going to pro street my 66 Comet. I want to drive on the street some and bracket race it too. Which one will be better for a street car/bracket car? I'm not sure on the motor yet, I mave leave the 390 in it or maybe put a 385 series in it. If I leave the 390 , low 8's will be about all it'll run. But I may opt to a 385 type if I sell my Mustang and make it my footbrake car, then I'd say high 6's will be in order. Just wanting to know which would be better on the street in a 3600lb car? Thanks..

Dan Hobbs 2004 Super Pro Champion Windy Hollow 2002 NHRA National Dragster Challenge Super Pro Champion Beech Bend Raceway Best ET 5.290 @ 132.95 1.14 60 Ft. 575 injected alcohol 2008 & 2009 BBF Bash PRO Champion(The Guy With 2 BIG Checks)2010FunFord Super Pro Winner @Norwalk,Oh. 2011 NHRA National HotRod Reunion Gas Eliminator Champion..2012 Ford Thunder Q-16 Heads Up Champion

Best Auto Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
56tbird is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2009, 04:47 PM
Senior Member
 
bruno's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: MILLBROOK, AL.
Posts: 6,970
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
 
im no suspension guru --but if it is going to be street driven i would go with the 4-link and add a whishbone or track locator and it would ride like a caddy plus the 4-link will use up less floor space



100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3
bruno is offline  
post #3 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2009, 04:47 PM
Senior Member
 
Treeyasoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Muncie, Indiana
Posts: 620
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
I've saw people do both with street/strip cars...never really heard anyone complain about either. I would look at what you think will be the best set-up for the car in race trim.

Travellin' through time...
5.66 @ 124
8.91 @ 151
557-A429's-Glide-4.10's
Treeyasoon is offline  
 
post #4 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2009, 04:51 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Southern Ohio
Posts: 1,650
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
 
I have read ladder bars are not safe on the street. The car won't corner good. I don't know how a 4 link is on the street. I would be of the opinion that personal preference is going to be a lot of bias in any answers you get.
jpierce55 is offline  
post #5 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2009, 05:04 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
56tbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Hawesville,Ky.
Posts: 2,960
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
I know the foxbody's are set up on a 4link design, and they seem to work good. I know my Tbird(4link) seems to be softer than my ladder bar set up on my mustang. I'm kinda leaning towards a 4-link ,they're the same price.

Dan Hobbs 2004 Super Pro Champion Windy Hollow 2002 NHRA National Dragster Challenge Super Pro Champion Beech Bend Raceway Best ET 5.290 @ 132.95 1.14 60 Ft. 575 injected alcohol 2008 & 2009 BBF Bash PRO Champion(The Guy With 2 BIG Checks)2010FunFord Super Pro Winner @Norwalk,Oh. 2011 NHRA National HotRod Reunion Gas Eliminator Champion..2012 Ford Thunder Q-16 Heads Up Champion

Best Auto Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
56tbird is offline  
post #6 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2009, 05:05 PM
Senior Member
 
ONEBAD555NOTCH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: akron-ohio
Posts: 1,633
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
4 link - just like the typical mustang
ONEBAD555NOTCH is offline  
post #7 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2009, 05:22 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Greenfield Center, New York
Posts: 739
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
 
Smile

Hey, Dan: How about showing us some pic's of your Comet? As for your question, go with an adjustable four bar with a panhard bar, they're infinitely more adjustable than a ladder bar setup, and they ride better. I've been running a four bar in my 50 Ford pro street coupe since 1999, and I love it!

Wayne (SAWDOFF) Pearce
Wayne Pearce is offline  
post #8 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2009, 05:27 PM
Senior Member
 
richter69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: sniffin' out the procomp threads
Posts: 6,392
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
I guess I'm an oldschool ladderbar guy.

Car has left like its on a string from the day I put um on.

4 link has more adjustability, but if you run on familiar tracks with it then its a non issue really.

69 Grande'
P51 headed 563
3070#'s
5.15 @ 134.89
richter69 is offline  
post #9 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2009, 05:36 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Yates City Illinois
Posts: 290
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
that would look cool. i always wanted to do that to mine.
here is a pic of mine, not the best pic. but its what I had on my site.
7th one down on photo page.
I havent got the photo post thing down yet
http://home.mchsi.com/~balistic/

A460 block, A460 heads and A/C. cruising in comfort. 588 cube F100
Dave Maxwell is offline  
post #10 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2009, 05:45 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Southern Ohio
Posts: 1,650
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
 
Jon I am die hard on the ladder as well, but not sure I would go that route on a street driven car.... even if I am going to drive mine on occassion, I while be using caution. In my case I can't justify fixing it if it works right and not broken.
jpierce55 is offline  
post #11 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2009, 05:49 PM
Senior Member
 
richter69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: sniffin' out the procomp threads
Posts: 6,392
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
I got a buddy with a 67 coupe, puts thousands of miles a year on his 4 speed ladderbar car a year.

It wont handle like a European sports car, but any typical drag car won't anyway.


If you do be sure its got the safety loops on it...........

69 Grande'
P51 headed 563
3070#'s
5.15 @ 134.89
richter69 is offline  
post #12 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2009, 05:51 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Livermore Ky
Posts: 8,521
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 74 Post(s)
        
Here is a good hooking ladder bar unit ! It's all about how hard one thinks and works on what they have .....this is a RULES dictated deal. 4 link has more potential...think/work...it all works .



B F Evans Race Parts
270-278-2376
Lem Evans is offline  
post #13 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2009, 05:53 PM
Senior Member
 
Treeyasoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Muncie, Indiana
Posts: 620
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richter69 View Post
If you do be sure its got the safety loops on it...........
...That's funny **** right there...

Travellin' through time...
5.66 @ 124
8.91 @ 151
557-A429's-Glide-4.10's
Treeyasoon is offline  
post #14 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-25-2009, 06:49 PM
Senior Member
 
falcon8r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Kalispell, Montana
Posts: 456
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
I have a ladder bar coil over that is problem free for 9 yrs on the street. I had the diag. link initially. Cornering was cautious. I changed it to a wish bone on top of the housing and if the car gets sideways, it is fun to drive. Tires don't rub. Keep the power on and it will straighten out nicely. Years ago it was explained to me by G. Alston that it is really the same performance wise. The dbl. adj. ladder is an excellent link. Why have more ends to replace with the 4 link? The 4 link gives the adjustibility to meet changes/ needs for lots of different tracks. Once the dbl. adj. ladder is set up properly, the adj. range is more than adequate for most. I used the big solid ends. The bars are relic Don Hardy with the big ends. I drove the car several time so far today. Such is the summer. Tres.....

533 powered 1961 falcon , my car. Hot Rods and Tuners ....
falcon8r is offline  
post #15 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-26-2009, 07:29 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Pikeville, KY
Posts: 427
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
 
As long as room isn't an issue, I would personally run Ladder Bars over 4-link for a couple of different reasons,.........

Ease of install & less room for error on adjustability. If set up correctly there's little to no difference in performance. Also,.....most of the tracks that I frequent have specific rules outlawing 4-links in certain classes, but do allow Ladder Bars.

I remember when I was contemplating a suspension for the rear of my truck when I was first building it and there was several of my racing buddies running 4-links. They thought I was nuts even thinking about using Ladder Bars,..........

Well, fast forward a few years and I have helped with measurements/specs on two different vehicles and another one of those guys I was refering to is switching his 4-link over to Ladder Bars as we speak.

Keith Blackburn

93 Pro-Street Lightning
598" of Jet-Boat Bob Power
5.89/9.33
http://www.nloc.net/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=717
Copperhead is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the 460 Ford Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome