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It seems that my late Ford 9" rearend can not handle the spool, and big BFG Baja TAs.
I lost the axle bearing retainer. It kind of looks like Elmer Fudds shotgun after Bugs stuck his fingers in the barrels.
I know Strange engeneering makes stronger axel retainers but what else can I do to prevent this from happening again ???

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You should be able to find thicker/stronger axle bearing retainers (for factory drum brakes) at Strange & M-W.

Did it fail because the bearing "pushed through" the center of the thin factory retainer? Or did the retainer's 4 bolt holes rip/fail?

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Pushed threw the center.

here is a pic of the rear;

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I can see where a truck like yours (big tires & high center of gravity) would see a good amount of axle side loading. This side loading could be the cause of the axle pushing through the paper thin factory retainer, (a bent/bowed axle shaft might also push out).

Mark Williams's heavy duty bearing retainer plates are cut from 1/4" thick steel, they make the factory retainer look sickly.

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I was told to replace the axle ends with Olds ends and so I did, they are heavier duty and cost nothing to get.
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I can see where a truck like yours (big tires & high center of gravity) would see a good amount of axle side loading. This side loading could be the cause of the axle pushing through the paper thin factory retainer, (a bent/bowed axle shaft might also push out).

Mark Williams's heavy duty bearing retainer plates are cut from 1/4" thick steel, they make the factory retainer look sickly.
Do you have a link for there website ???

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http://www.markwilliams.com/ There you go.It's good stuff. It is all I run on my car.
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??? "Olds ends are stronger"??? funny, they take the same bearing as the big FORD.

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9 truck

9 in trucks use a cone bearing vs roller so can push hard on retainer but that bearing can take greater side loads, like for oval track racing. change over to ball bearing
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I Love that truck! That looks like a lot of fun.

You deffinitely need to loose the factory sheet metal stamped side plates.
Go with the heavy Strange or Mark Williams piece and you will never have any problems.

I run a shaved 9, 35 spline strange setup in my rock crawling rig with 42" tires. I am HEAVY on throttle! I have put it on it's side during full throttle assaults four times :lol:

Pulled the shafts this winter for inspection and they look new.

What do you do with that truck?
Me and some buddies are putting together a Baja team in the next 5 years. We have done about everything else and this has been a dream of ours, so we have strated collecting and planning.

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I Love that truck! That looks like a lot of fun.

You deffinitely need to loose the factory sheet metal stamped side plates.
Go with the heavy Strange or Mark Williams piece and you will never have any problems.

I run a shaved 9, 35 spline strange setup in my rock crawling rig with 42" tires. I am HEAVY on throttle! I have put it on it's side during full throttle assaults four times :lol:

Pulled the shafts this winter for inspection and they look new.

What do you do with that truck?
Me and some buddies are putting together a Baja team in the next 5 years. We have done about everything else and this has been a dream of ours, so we have strated collecting and planning.

Nice truck.
We race BITD and SNORE with it, desert racing.

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Broncman, Didn't you read all the magazine articles ?? They all say you have to run a Dana 60 with any tires over 35". You can't run 42s on a 9", come on - get with the program. LOL Just Kidding. The 9' is much stronger than the Magazine guys think. - Posford -
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Code Blue, That is one killer truck. It really looks nice..
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Broncman, Didn't you read all the magazine articles ?? They all say you have to run a Dana 60 with any tires over 35". You can't run 42s on a 9", come on - get with the program. LOL Just Kidding. The 9' is much stronger than the Magazine guys think. - Posford -
In this class I can not use anything other than what came on these trucks from the factory. Being it is a F100 the Dana 40 would suck ........... The 9" is way stronger. Plus I was able to change the studs from 1/2" to 9/16" by simply replacing them with '91 F250 studs, and they fit the wheels way better. I am running 35" tires anyway.

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Re: 9"

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Broncman, Didn't you read all the magazine articles ?? They all say you have to run a Dana 60 with any tires over 35". You can't run 42s on a 9", come on - get with the program. LOL Just Kidding. The 9' is much stronger than the Magazine guys think. - Posford -
Yea, those rags are put out by Jeep drivers...You don't need anything stronger than a D60 with those.....but run a Ford , and well , you need the strength 8)

Serious, I have saw over 4 D60's eat the ring gears in Rock Crawling comps in 2 years. (UROC series) These were the aftermarket housings and setups. Never saw a Nodular Iron , properly setup 9 fail!

We built 2 "609" axles for our comp buggy in my link below. These are custom 9 housings with Dedenbear 60 steering knuckles! 4 wheel steer and Ford 5 lug 9/16 lugs!

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