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Need a Shortblock!!!

Looking for a shortblock... I am looking for a shortblock..it can be a 429 or 460 or even a stroker it doesnt matter much. All that matters is that it has forged pistons (for sj heads/standard) and a set of H beam forged rods....Looking for something in the 10.1 compression ratio with 72-75cc heads..... Something that can handle about 700hp. of course be balanced.. and be fresh unless the price reflects if it needs new rigs and bearings. If it has a cam with it even better if its a solid...



I have cash in Hand!!! Located in South jersey... .
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New?

Used?

How much "cash in Hand!!!"?



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Prolly used...not sure how much a new one goes for?

I have a decent amount of money... Rather not say if I do everyone will want a much as I got...
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Prolly used...not sure how much a new one goes for?

I have a decent amount of money... Rather not say if I do everyone will want a much as I got...
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Good luck with that!
Some of us may be able to work within a budget to give you the most value for your money, but not without knowing how much you have to work with. Cheapest =/= best. Put another way....strong-cheap-fast: pick two.


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Ok lets say I have close to 2 grand... But also would like to spend less...
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It's a 500-550hp street motor I plan on spraying a 200 shot
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Ok lets say I have close to 2 grand... But also would like to spend less...

It's a 500-550hp street motor I plan on spraying a 200 shot
Used it is!
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I just don't understand why there so much? For instance a stroker kit is what $1200-$1400 Rings and bearings like $120... Boring is what $200... Where is the rest of the cost?

So if someone has a offset ground crank or even a stock crank it be even cheaper....


Not trying to be rude just curious

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I just don't understand why there so much? For instance a stroker kit is what $1200-$1400 Rings and bearings like $120... Boring is what $200... Where is the rest of the cost?

So if someone has a offset ground crank or even a stock crank it be even cheaper....


Not trying to be rude just curious
Balancing rotating assembly.
Setting ring/bearing clearances.
Engine block machine work.
Short block assembly.

To name a few...

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I just don't understand why there so much? For instance a stroker kit is what $1200-$1400 Rings and bearings like $120... Boring is what $200... Where is the rest of the cost?

So if someone has a offset ground crank or even a stock crank it be even cheaper....


Not trying to be rude just curious
A properly built shortblock is not just a collection of parts. Labor and knowledge are not free, and offset ground cranks are not cheaper than cranks made in China.

But, lets add some basics to your list....

-cost of a core block
-teardown of core engine
-hot tank/clean block
-magnaflux the block to check for cracks
-line hone (if needed)
-bore block
-balance rotating assembly
-fit pins to rods/pistons
-check/correct rods for straightness and/or recondition them
-assemble rods/pistons
-grind/polish crank
-juggle several sets of bearings to set clearances
-file fit rings
-assemble engine and measure deck
-tear down engine
-deck block
-re-clean block
-install cam bearings and freeze plugs (plus the cost of cam bearings and freeze plugs)
-re-assemble engine re-checking clearances
-measure/set rod bolt stretch
-rear main seal
-mask and paint


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I guess when you do all that yourself or most of it it's cheaper....

I would build my own short but seems like I should of been able to find something decent for $1000-$1500 especially used.. But maybe I'm completlly wrong...

Who knows I'll see what happens If nothing comes out of it I'll just buy some rods and pistons I guess... Who knows..

Thanks for the info though
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Here's my best deal for you. An easy 500HP shortblock that will handle a 200 shot.

I have a 1970 429 CJ core motor with forged pistons.

I'll build you a shortblock using the 429 CJ pistons and crank, new 4130 cap screw I-beam rods, block cleaned/machined/decked with all the clearances set and documented for the low-low price of $1595.00. (this will give you approx 10.5:1 compression with 75cc heads).



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Hmm that is good... The I beams will be ok though?
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Hmm that is good... The I beams will be ok though?
They're the strongest press-fit rod available. Only thing stronger is a 4340 rod, but they're all bushed for floating pins. The factory pistons require press-fit.

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