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Steel Crank??

I am wondering how to tell a steel crank apart. Casting #'s? It was in a 27' motorhome. I have heard that it should have one, because it has truck rods and it's application. Any help on this? Thanks,
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The only Ford Steel cranks came in the heavy truck motors. They have a larger front snout. Your motor home almost certainly has a passenger car type 460 which will have a cast crank.

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Forge I.D.

Standard rule of thumb; castings are from metal poured into a mold and will have a fine (1/8" or so) line on the unmachined surfaces.
Forgings are billit material hammered into a die to shape material and will have a wider (1/2" or so) seam on unmachined surfaces.
You can see this on crank shafts, spindles and even on connecting rods of small engines.
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how much for the crank if its steel ?
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Steel Crank??

I didn't think it was, but figured I'd ask to make sure. A steel crank would have a different timing cover and balancer....a buddy had an F-700 crank and it was totally different......damn....that sucks. O well, Thanks for the responses guys.
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Dont despair...the factory iron crank is STRONG!!

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Dont despair...the factory iron crank is STRONG!!
X2 you have to be trying hard to break them

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Thanks guys......I was just hoping...o well.
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Standard rule of thumb; castings are from metal poured into a mold and will have a fine (1/8" or so) line on the unmachined surfaces.
Forgings are billit material hammered into a die to shape material and will have a wider (1/2" or so) seam on unmachined surfaces.
You can see this on crank shafts, spindles and even on connecting rods of small engines.

I'd like to see that process..........................

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I'd like to see that process..........................

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Jon, it looks something like this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,






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Looked for a u-tube vidio but only found this.

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"With the near-molten steel placed in a forging die, a hammer press slams the die with about 240,000 lbs. in not one but multiple steps"

I knew cold forging would be difficult for a crankshaft


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Jon, it looks something like this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,






she needs a bigger hammer.....


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