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Im watching you guys, a build in my head (after I get this 67 Mustang done) is a Pro Street or tribute Pro Stock T-bird, form the 80s, shoe box type.
Are the T birds and Zephyrs the same platform -

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Nice build..

Bajarick Wow nice build.. I am in the Baltimore area as well.. I would like to put a 557 in my T-Bird build in the future but for now will just move the motor over from my 86 coupe (504) over and upgrade to my Blue Thunder Heads (Eddy heads worked over by the MAD porter currently) and a mild 700 roller cam (680 flat tappet cam currently) and Hat injection system (Rons terminator injection currently). Keep up the good work and good luck with your build.. Will also keep an eye out for tail lights.
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Bajarick Wow nice build.. I am in the Baltimore area as well.. I would like to put a 557 in my T-Bird build in the future but for now will just move the motor over from my 86 coupe (504) over and upgrade to my Blue Thunder Heads (Eddy heads worked over by the MAD porter currently) and a mild 700 roller cam (680 flat tappet cam currently) and Hat injection system (Rons terminator injection currently). Keep up the good work and good luck with your build.. Will also keep an eye out for tail lights.
Thanks for the kind words.

Moving your motor from the 86 coupe sounds good.

I was looking at the fuel injection units, but for that price I can buy 3 dominators - I like the Dominators.

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Im watching you guys, a build in my head (after I get this 67 Mustang done) is a Pro Street or tribute Pro Stock T-bird, form the 80s, shoe box type.
Are the T birds and Zephyrs the same platform -
Yes - the T Birds of the same year are also Fox Body units.

It ought to be a sweet ride.

They weren't running many of the birds at the drags tho - it was the Fairmont or the zephyr.

I think the birds were being run mostly in NASCAR.

Thanks for watching!
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I was wondering if you could post a pic or two of how the Alston kit attatches at the rear of the car. I am ordering the Alston 4-link kit for my '78 Zephyr Z7 and there doesn't seem to be much "car" to attatch the frame rails to. You can pm me or send it to [email protected]
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Jaymie,

I didn't install the back half, but Ill try to take some pics and post them.

Im sure the kit should install real nice tho.
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Anyone else got some pics of a Carls Cars engine?
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Yes - the T Birds of the same year are also Fox Body units.

It ought to be a sweet ride.

They weren't running many of the birds at the drags tho - it was the Fairmont or the zephyr.

I think the birds were being run mostly in NASCAR.

Thanks for watching!
I miss typed, I am thinking late 70s like a 78 /9 I want to say Glidden ran one. I gotta do some research! But I always liked that small boxy T bird, looked a lot like a Zeph.

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I miss typed, I am thinking late 70s like a 78 /9 I want to say Glidden ran one. I gotta do some research! But I always liked that small boxy T bird, looked a lot like a Zeph.
Glidden ran the 78 Ford Fairmont.

Later he ran the ealry 83/84 Tbird, later he went to the Probe.

The Fairmonts and Zephyrs were (a little) more aerodynamic than the TBirds of the same year.

Ford did not come out with the "aero" look TBirds until '83.

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Glidden ran the 78 Ford Fairmont.

Later he ran the ealry 83/84 Tbird, later he went to the Probe.

The Fairmonts and Zephyrs were (a little) more aerodynamic than the TBirds.
Here are some pics of 81 and 83 TBirds (81 on the left, 83 on the right).

I havent seen any 81 TBird drag cars in Pro Stock.
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I was wondering if you could post a pic or two of how the Alston kit attatches at the rear of the car. I am ordering the Alston 4-link kit for my '78 Zephyr Z7 and there doesn't seem to be much "car" to attatch the frame rails to. You can pm me or send it to [email protected]
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HeyJaymie:

I finally got to take some picks of the back half.

You have to excuse the rust and cobb webs, the car has been sitting outside for a while - but that's all about to change.

Some of them need to be rotated to see them properly.

Looks like the floor was cut out per the kit instructions and the new frame rails and cross members were installed.

First pic is from the rear bumper looking forward - you can see the floor cut, the front cross member to the kit, with the front ladder bar connections.

Second pic is looking up from the ground towards the underside of the rear bumper where the rear of the sub frame attaches to the trunk floor.

Third pic is looking forward from bumper towards front of car - you can see frame rail go over the axle towards the front of the sub frame.

Fourth and fifth pics show the upper shock cross member with attaching points.

Seems like once you get the floor cut out according to pattern you just lay it in and weld it up.

Anyone got any tips for tuning one of these set ups??
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Smile Hey bajarick

Not sure if you aware of it but there is a All ford fun weekend at Maryland International Raceway this up coming weekend with a swap meet. Just a little heads up if you looking for parts and or inspiration!! Hope to see you there..
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Not sure if you aware of it but there is a All ford fun weekend at Maryland International Raceway this up coming weekend with a swap meet. Just a little heads up if you looking for parts and or inspiration!! Hope to see you there..
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That sounds good Dude - Ill pencil it into the schedule.
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HeyJaymie:

I finally got to take some picks of the back half.

You have to excuse the rust and cobb webs, the car has been sitting outside for a while - but that's all about to change.

Some of them need to be rotated to see them properly.

Looks like the floor was cut out per the kit instructions and the new frame rails and cross members were installed.

First pic is from the rear bumper looking forward - you can see the floor cut, the front cross member to the kit, with the front ladder bar connections.

Second pic is looking up from the ground towards the underside of the rear bumper where the rear of the sub frame attaches to the trunk floor.

Third pic is looking forward from bumper towards front of car - you can see frame rail go over the axle towards the front of the sub frame.

Fourth and fifth pics show the upper shock cross member with attaching points.

Seems like once you get the floor cut out according to pattern you just lay the it in and weld it up.

Anyone got any tips for tuning one of these set ups??
Thanks for the pics, helps me get an idea. I'll try to post a few of my car.
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Got my Carl's motor today - Thanks Carl !

The workmanship and detail to the motor is outstanding!

Here are some new pics.

I have a lot of work ahead of me.

I had to swap the cars around to move the Zephyr inside the garage.

Its a hassel taking the big 18.5 x 31 Mickeys on and off so I installed the original mustang wheels to move the car around.

The mustang has been in the garage for 10 years - the Zephyr has been sitting outside next to the garage for the last four years.

I would be putting the 557 in the Stang except I don't want to race it.

The Zephyr is for racing-the Stang is eventually gonna be a restored R-code Mach 1 - it will get a 428 and a 4 speed trans so it will be a good driver.

The Zephyr will be getting the tubular front end, fuel system, exhaust system, drive shaft, manual brakes, and trans.

Hope to have it all installed and running by the spring.
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Removed the K -Member Tonight -New Pics

Got the stock K member wrestled out tonight.

Im very happy that all the k member bolts came out without damage.

I been soaking them with WD-40 since last spring - lol.

The whole front suspension just drops right out!

Freakin thing must weigh 300 lbs!

I put a jack under it to try to stabilize it, but when she gets loose look out -any body parts in the way and they'll get crushed!

I still have to retrieve the spindles - the rest is going to the scrap yard.

Man that engine compartment is huge - but the moda is big too

I only see one rusty spot near the battery tray, but its mostly on the surface.

The car only has 58 k miles on it.

A little Simple Green and a can of red paint ought to clean things up a bit, then Ill install the tubular k member and manual steering.

Next will be the manual brakes.

I need some sub frame connectors.
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