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is it internally or externally balanced??Came out of a D9TE block(88 EFI truck).What year was the balancing changed and can the cranks be swapped??THANKS
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RJP
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198.81.16.183 Its externally balanced
No score for this post November 4 2001, 3:09 PM
I think all 460s built after 1979 were externally balanced. 68 thru 78 internally balanced and heavier blocks.
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George Huff
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205.188.195.36 460 Cranks and blocks
No score for this post November 4 2001, 6:38 PM
It is external after 78. The 3ya is also is missing the oil slinger on the rear. Why? Also 79 and later blocks will not take a stroker crank without grinding the block in most cases. As far as interchange, i would stick to internal balance when possible. The closer the counterwheight is the better! The way it was explained to me 25 years ago, "tie a string around a rock and make the string 6ft long. Stand and swing the rock in a circle. Can you keep standing the same spot? Shorten the string, and you will!
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T-BOLT
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206.159.117.180 460 block and cranks
No score for this post November 5 2001, 5:11 AM
doesn't the 514 use the truck block??Also why are the cylinders longer in the (D9TE)truck block 6 1/4 long and 6in in the (D1VE) car block,Can the 3YA crank be swaped out for the earlier one?
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StickBBF
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205.158.104.42 REAR Oil slinger...?
No score for this post November 6 2001, 12:27 PM
"...missing the oil slinger on the rear"?...Interesting
I only knew that some of the earlier engines equipped with an oil slinger at the FRONT; located in front of the timing chain drive gear. Do you guys think these disc slingers are really necessary anyway?
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Gary
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12.13.226.11 Yes Yes Yes
No score for this post November 6 2001, 12:34 PM
Don't leave it out or you will have a heck of a leak!
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StickBBF
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205.158.104.42 ???
No score for this post November 6 2001, 1:09 PM
Gary:
#1) I assume you're referring to an oil leak because of not installing a FRONT oil slinger?
#2) I'm guessing the leak comes from the timing cover crank seal and is due to oil "piling up" at the gear and overpowering that seal, is that right?
#3) Did all of the 429/460 blocks come with front oil slingers or are there only a few years that require them?
#4) Would using an aftermarket crank change the need to use the oil slinger?
Thanks, StickBBF
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George Huff
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No score for this post November 6 2001, 8:39 PM
Some aftermarket timing sets tell you not to use the slinger. Space prohibits it.I've left them out with no problems. The slinger i refered to was in the rear of a internal 429/460 and missing on the 3y series.
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198.81.16.183 Its externally balanced
No score for this post November 4 2001, 3:09 PM
I think all 460s built after 1979 were externally balanced. 68 thru 78 internally balanced and heavier blocks.
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George Huff
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205.188.195.36 460 Cranks and blocks
No score for this post November 4 2001, 6:38 PM
It is external after 78. The 3ya is also is missing the oil slinger on the rear. Why? Also 79 and later blocks will not take a stroker crank without grinding the block in most cases. As far as interchange, i would stick to internal balance when possible. The closer the counterwheight is the better! The way it was explained to me 25 years ago, "tie a string around a rock and make the string 6ft long. Stand and swing the rock in a circle. Can you keep standing the same spot? Shorten the string, and you will!
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T-BOLT
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206.159.117.180 460 block and cranks
No score for this post November 5 2001, 5:11 AM
doesn't the 514 use the truck block??Also why are the cylinders longer in the (D9TE)truck block 6 1/4 long and 6in in the (D1VE) car block,Can the 3YA crank be swaped out for the earlier one?
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StickBBF
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205.158.104.42 REAR Oil slinger...?
No score for this post November 6 2001, 12:27 PM
"...missing the oil slinger on the rear"?...Interesting
I only knew that some of the earlier engines equipped with an oil slinger at the FRONT; located in front of the timing chain drive gear. Do you guys think these disc slingers are really necessary anyway?
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Gary
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12.13.226.11 Yes Yes Yes
No score for this post November 6 2001, 12:34 PM
Don't leave it out or you will have a heck of a leak!
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StickBBF
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205.158.104.42 ???
No score for this post November 6 2001, 1:09 PM
Gary:
#1) I assume you're referring to an oil leak because of not installing a FRONT oil slinger?
#2) I'm guessing the leak comes from the timing cover crank seal and is due to oil "piling up" at the gear and overpowering that seal, is that right?
#3) Did all of the 429/460 blocks come with front oil slingers or are there only a few years that require them?
#4) Would using an aftermarket crank change the need to use the oil slinger?
Thanks, StickBBF
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George Huff
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152.163.205.49 ????//
No score for this post November 6 2001, 8:39 PM
Some aftermarket timing sets tell you not to use the slinger. Space prohibits it.I've left them out with no problems. The slinger i refered to was in the rear of a internal 429/460 and missing on the 3y series.
