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We don't need more jobs. What we need is smarter people, and people that are willing to work hard, and appreciate what they are fortunate to have without being too greedy. Let me give an example.. People are being put to work around here doing various construction jobs (highway resto, etc.,) because of the American Reinvestment Act (or whatever it is called.) They should be happy to have a job, and be able to pay their bills right? And one that pays fairly well at that. But no.. They, along with all of the other union construction workers have gone on strike because they are greedy. I mean.. C'mon. These people should be happy to have jobs at all. I'm sure there are thousands of people right now that would kill to have a job like theirs. But I guess it isn't good enough for them. I don't mean this in a disrespectful way to any on here that are involved in unions, but I personally believe they are outdated. The days of Standard Oil, etc., are gone and done. Most local laws, around here at least, do a very good job of protecting workers rights. I think the unions played a big part in forcing work out of our country, by pricing American workers right out of the market. Think about it.. If you could have something built in the U.S. by a union worker for $30/hr, or by someone in another country for $1.00/day, which would you choose? And think from the standpoint of a large corporation, not from the standpoint of a patriotic individual. It just pisses me off when people ask for more than they need because they think they are better than everyone else. <end rant>
Sounds like you can't get a union job, was you black-balled?We don't need more jobs. What we need is smarter people, and people that are willing to work hard, and appreciate what they are fortunate to have without being too greedy. Let me give an example.. People are being put to work around here doing various construction jobs (highway resto, etc.,) because of the American Reinvestment Act (or whatever it is called.) They should be happy to have a job, and be able to pay their bills right? And one that pays fairly well at that. But no.. They, along with all of the other union construction workers have gone on strike because they are greedy. I mean.. C'mon. These people should be happy to have jobs at all. I'm sure there are thousands of people right now that would kill to have a job like theirs. But I guess it isn't good enough for them. I don't mean this in a disrespectful way to any on here that are involved in unions, but I personally believe they are outdated. The days of Standard Oil, etc., are gone and done. Most local laws, around here at least, do a very good job of protecting workers rights. I think the unions played a big part in forcing work out of our country, by pricing American workers right out of the market. Think about it.. If you could have something built in the U.S. by a union worker for $30/hr, or by someone in another country for $1.00/day, which would you choose? And think from the standpoint of a large corporation, not from the standpoint of a patriotic individual. It just pisses me off when people ask for more than they need because they think they are better than everyone else. <end rant>
Too wordy. How bout a synopsis?
No.. I've just had a problem with union people in the past. And considering the economic circumstances, I don't think they have the right to be greedy.Sounds like you can't get a union job, was you black-balled?
you are exactly right! look at what the autoworkers union did to gm. thats part of the reason for their economic bailout! i too think unions are outdated and end up costing the company more than a non union company would have.We don't need more jobs. What we need is smarter people, and people that are willing to work hard, and appreciate what they are fortunate to have without being too greedy. Let me give an example.. People are being put to work around here doing various construction jobs (highway resto, etc.,) because of the American Reinvestment Act (or whatever it is called.) They should be happy to have a job, and be able to pay their bills right? And one that pays fairly well at that. But no.. They, along with all of the other union construction workers have gone on strike because they are greedy. I mean.. C'mon. These people should be happy to have jobs at all. I'm sure there are thousands of people right now that would kill to have a job like theirs. But I guess it isn't good enough for them. I don't mean this in a disrespectful way to any on here that are involved in unions, but I personally believe they are outdated. The days of Standard Oil, etc., are gone and done. Most local laws, around here at least, do a very good job of protecting workers rights. I think the unions played a big part in forcing work out of our country, by pricing American workers right out of the market. Think about it.. If you could have something built in the U.S. by a union worker for $30/hr, or by someone in another country for $1.00/day, which would you choose? And think from the standpoint of a large corporation, not from the standpoint of a patriotic individual. It just pisses me off when people ask for more than they need because they think they are better than everyone else. <end rant>
Yea, cause $12.50 is too much.you are exactly right! look at what the autoworkers union did to gm. thats part of the reason for their economic bailout! i too think unions are outdated and end up costing the company more than a non union company would have.
AAAAAAAmen!Yea, cause $12.50 is too much.
The answer is to quit making American workers compete with third world labor. (even though $1/hr buys an apartment in the city and a house for the family in the country in China). Trickle down economics are in full effect. The wealth is trickling down to other countries.
It's about damn time we start taking care of our own. Seal the borders, bring the troops home and provide for ourselves!
that is what makes unions a bad deal for the company. the only unions that i feel are necessary are the ones where safety and workers well being are involved. such as working in mines and such.I am not anti union but neither am I pro union they are nessesary in their own way. Without them working conditions will deteriate but too many have gotten greedy. I drive a truck OTR delivering to factories and such and really hate to goto a union shop. I remember last year delivering to a GM plant I was the only truck there 10 docks, 6 forklifts with operators refused to unload because they had unloaded their quota of trucks for their shift. I had to sit there for 3 hours till the next shift came on. 6 guys sat there and shot the bull for 3 hours and got paid for it. I want a job like that!!! Once went into a PPG plant as forklift was backing out of my trailer with last pallet someone said "Hey you got a brake light out on that forlkift. Operator stopped 1/2 way out and we had to wait almost an hour for a mecanic to come from other side of plant to replace a light bulb!!!!
We all share the same interests. But I am still gonna want alot of stuff for no money and make alot of money.Unions are not the problem.
Greed is the problem.
Both by Producer, and consumer.
Until we ACT as though we care about each other and not ONLY with our own personal wealth, things will not change for the better.
We are all guilty, Myself as much as anyone else.
I know I want to make the most amount of money I can, and spend the least amount of money as possible.
so i can have the most or best stuff.
And millions share the same thought
As long as we have this mentality things will never change.
I know i'm trying to make a conscious effort to reduce this mentality. Its very hard to do when no one else shares similar interest.
Interesting. In several cases, I've found Wal-Mart carries American made products while big box stores carrying chineese made crap at twice the price.This is a big reason I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart, Sam Walton founded the company with the idea to keep jobs in America and he did a good job then as soon as he passed away his benificiaries decided that Wal-Mart needed to be about making a PROFIT and screw American companies if they can't provide the cheapest prices.