Here's a video of this past weekends Armdrop event at Toronto Motorsports Park. It was one of the qualifying sessions. Rich didn't show up until later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFKq0p4aJPI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFKq0p4aJPI
DOVE Headed 514 Build
This is my first big block build and thought I would share what I did. This build was frustrating at times but it's well worth it in the end.
514- 4.440bore x 4.150stroke
Scat Rotating assembly, 6.700 I-Beam rod, JE SRP 28cc inverted dome pistons.
Cam- Re-incarnation custom XR292 Solid Roller 250/[email protected] .662/.686 - I set it up at 6 deg retarded to keep the torque down at lower rpm.
Intake- Port-O-Sonic single plane - has NOT been ported.
Carb- Holley 850 Double Pumper - no spacer because of hood clearance.
Oil Pan- Ford Fox Body - added a baffle in the rear sump.
Oil Pump- Melling HV - also modified the front sump as the pump was hitting the bottom. Oil pan would not go on until this was done.
Distributor- MSD - 10deg initial with 31 total and heavy advance springs.
Exhaust- Hooker Super Competition 2" into a 3.5" collector.
Heads- DOVE's with 2.250 intake and 1.750 exhaust, ported myself with the help of http://reincarnation-automotive.com/ website porting tips.
Head Flow #'s
Lift Intake Exhaust
.100 89 68
.200 165 120
.300 224 147
.400 267 169
.500 290 179
.600 302 181
.700 313 181
.750 318
.800 321
Rockers- Harland Sharp
I installed this into my 79 Ford Fairmont Futura which previously had a fuel injected 302, which had gone 11.20's. The car did weigh 2900lbs with the small block and me in it (185lbs) and now weighs 3165lbs.
I'm using a C4 reverse manual valve body, TCI 4500 stall, 8.8 rear end with 3.27 gears and 31 spline axles and spool. The rear tires are 275/50 15 Mickey Thompson Drag Radials.
Here's the time slip from the second run out.
60' 1.523
330' 4.313
1/8 6.680
MPH 103.93
1000' 8.734
1/4 10.47
MPH 129.01
Feetfirst was there and can vouch for me.
I was also footbraking it, shifting at 5500rpm and the DA for the day was 2950'.
Also forgot to add that I am using the stock hood and closes with a Moroso air filter on, with not much space to spare.
I never thought the car would be this fast! All I was trying to do was build a motor that would run the 10.90 index class and not have to rev the hell out of it. Now I have to try and slow it down. LOL!
A BIG Thanks goes out to Hugo (Feetfirst) for all his help and advice on getting the right parts for this build. If it wasn't for him I would have not attempted this build as there is very few builders who know how to build the big block in this area. Also like to thank Scott from Reincarnation for the custom cam and fast shipping and to the guys on this board for there advice.
Thanks
Lance
514- 4.440bore x 4.150stroke
Scat Rotating assembly, 6.700 I-Beam rod, JE SRP 28cc inverted dome pistons.
Cam- Re-incarnation custom XR292 Solid Roller 250/[email protected] .662/.686 - I set it up at 6 deg retarded to keep the torque down at lower rpm.
Intake- Port-O-Sonic single plane - has NOT been ported.
Carb- Holley 850 Double Pumper - no spacer because of hood clearance.
Oil Pan- Ford Fox Body - added a baffle in the rear sump.
Oil Pump- Melling HV - also modified the front sump as the pump was hitting the bottom. Oil pan would not go on until this was done.
Distributor- MSD - 10deg initial with 31 total and heavy advance springs.
Exhaust- Hooker Super Competition 2" into a 3.5" collector.
Heads- DOVE's with 2.250 intake and 1.750 exhaust, ported myself with the help of http://reincarnation-automotive.com/ website porting tips.
Head Flow #'s
Lift Intake Exhaust
.100 89 68
.200 165 120
.300 224 147
.400 267 169
.500 290 179
.600 302 181
.700 313 181
.750 318
.800 321
Rockers- Harland Sharp
I installed this into my 79 Ford Fairmont Futura which previously had a fuel injected 302, which had gone 11.20's. The car did weigh 2900lbs with the small block and me in it (185lbs) and now weighs 3165lbs.
I'm using a C4 reverse manual valve body, TCI 4500 stall, 8.8 rear end with 3.27 gears and 31 spline axles and spool. The rear tires are 275/50 15 Mickey Thompson Drag Radials.
Here's the time slip from the second run out.
60' 1.523
330' 4.313
1/8 6.680
MPH 103.93
1000' 8.734
1/4 10.47
MPH 129.01
Feetfirst was there and can vouch for me.
I was also footbraking it, shifting at 5500rpm and the DA for the day was 2950'.
Also forgot to add that I am using the stock hood and closes with a Moroso air filter on, with not much space to spare.
I never thought the car would be this fast! All I was trying to do was build a motor that would run the 10.90 index class and not have to rev the hell out of it. Now I have to try and slow it down. LOL!
A BIG Thanks goes out to Hugo (Feetfirst) for all his help and advice on getting the right parts for this build. If it wasn't for him I would have not attempted this build as there is very few builders who know how to build the big block in this area. Also like to thank Scott from Reincarnation for the custom cam and fast shipping and to the guys on this board for there advice.
Thanks
Lance
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514's are a durn good motor! I ran one in my boat for a while with a tad less lift on the exaust and 1500 CFM worth of tunnelram and it was SCAREY fast. I was estimating the HP to be in the 600 neighborhood......GOOD FOR YOU! 
Rob
Rob
Mark, the 3.27 gears are out of the yellow mustang...
Lance, I'm grateful for the kind words, but the best moment for me was seeing your first full pass when 129 mph popped up on the boards.
I then knew you had gotten more than you need........and more than you planned on...
As you guys probably know, the motor is making in the neighbourhood of 575 hp at 2950DA, which corrected, would be over 600 hp.
The car, with some more gear, and some 60 ft work, is definatley capable of 10.30's, and possibly 10.1x's in some good air.
The best part is, you have to see this car for real.......its a pure "sleeper", factory hood and all.
Now comes the hard part of slowing it down for 10.90 class.......it may be easier to tune it up for 9.90's......
Lance, I'm grateful for the kind words, but the best moment for me was seeing your first full pass when 129 mph popped up on the boards.
I then knew you had gotten more than you need..
......and more than you planned on...As you guys probably know, the motor is making in the neighbourhood of 575 hp at 2950DA, which corrected, would be over 600 hp.
The car, with some more gear, and some 60 ft work, is definatley capable of 10.30's, and possibly 10.1x's in some good air.
The best part is, you have to see this car for real.......its a pure "sleeper", factory hood and all.
Now comes the hard part of slowing it down for 10.90 class.......it may be easier to tune it up for 9.90's......
I set it up at 6 deg retarded to keep the torque down at lower rpm. I miss typed this, what I meant was move the power curve upwards so I had less torque when launching the car because of the small tires I'm using.
I did use Desktop Dyno5, with the cam retarded 6 deg it's telling me the engine peak's from 5000 to 5500 and then falls off.
The hp stays at 548 between these two points. Torque peaks at 4000 with 602ft lbs.
The power falls off early because I think the heads just don't flow enough for the cubes.
Now if I put the cam straight up the hp peaks at 5000 and falls off, hp was 549. Peak torque is 625 at 4000.
I played with the flow numbers of the heads and it didn't seem to make much of a difference until I changed the intake manifold and that made a huge difference.
I used the standard flow single plane as I figured a high flow intake would be more like a victor. The problem is the program doesn't give examples of what a standard flow intake is. But when I change the intake to a high flow and keeping the 850carb, hp jumps to 600 at 5500rpm.
I had my doubts about the program, but I have to say it comes out really close to what the car is running.
Hopefully I'll get a chance to take the car to the dyno in the fall and see what it can put down, if I do I will post the #'s here.
that car is a moving great job!!
great job!!
Well I finally got the car to the chassis dyno.
Temp 91F
29.28 in-Hg
16% Humidity
Sunoco 94 octane
3" race mufflers off the headers
Seems 31 deg timing is max.
468hp @ 5700
438tq @ 5200
32 deg timing made:
465hp @ 5700
442tq @ 5200
One thing I did find is the tach is way off.
The tach reads 5300 and the engine is actually turning 5700rpm.
I'm very happy for the way this motor turned out!
Temp 91F
29.28 in-Hg
16% Humidity
Sunoco 94 octane
3" race mufflers off the headers
Seems 31 deg timing is max.
468hp @ 5700
438tq @ 5200
32 deg timing made:
465hp @ 5700
442tq @ 5200
One thing I did find is the tach is way off.
The tach reads 5300 and the engine is actually turning 5700rpm.
I'm very happy for the way this motor turned out!
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