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can't see were the U.S. gov. is or going to own GM. INITALLY OWED . check with CNN to see what that means

Initially owned is not the point. No where in the constitution does it give the Federal govt power to do this- no matter how vaguely you want to interpret it :rolleyes:

They tried it in the Soviet Union and guess how that turned out :eek::mad:

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Give it a rest.

I'll be damned if I am just going to sit around and let this happen to MY country. I am an 'American' who actually believes in the Constitution. (you know... that little piece of paper that founded our nation and guided it into the greatest and most prosperous nation in the world.)

just go stick your head back in the sand comrade
 

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sorry, but this just pisses me off. Ignorance pisses me off also.

maybe I should just lock it, but it is relative to the auto industry. I am not a fan of chebbys, but I wouldn't wish this on my enemies. History, over and over proves that this doesn't work. Why can't people see this?

By the way. I am going to go measure for that speaker. I will pm you or give you a call.
 

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Skosler my job depends on the auto industry mainly (some cat offroad, john deere, class 8 truck companies and harley davidson but mostly GM and Chrysler) and I was against the original bailouts back in Dec. Funny thing was the day after GM and Chrysler got the bailouts in Dec I got a phone call being laid off for almost 2 months (yeah that worked well) But if they had been told no back then and been forced into bankruptcy court it would be over and done by now. And no they would not have gone under they would have just had to reorganize and redo the business plan that isn't working and hasn't for 20yrs (yes unfortunately some union guys would have taken a hit too, but if it's not good for the ocmpany you work for it is NOT GOOD FOR YOU)
But all the government getting their hands into it to protect groups that donate large sums of money to them managed to do was drag out the pain and make more people suffer longer. I am back to work but at a 4.5% paycut, while some in GM are crying about being laid off while collecting 85% pay for not working.
So beyond just the illegality of government owning anything the whole premise of this stuff has always been and always will be a failure adn will fail this time but you will not get people to see that when they are getting free money handouts. They don't see the danger to the way of life that started back almost a 100yrs ago when the progressives started all this nonsense.
 

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I'll be damned if I am just going to sit around and let this happen to MY country. I am an 'American' who actually believes in the Constitution. (you know... that little piece of paper that founded our nation and guided it into the greatest and most prosperous nation in the world.)

just go stick your head back in the sand comrade
you must have a really boring life, everything you say is political, I bet you got beat up a lot in school, didn't you? :D :D
 

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sorry, but this just pisses me off. Ignorance pisses me off also.

maybe I should just lock it, but it is relative to the auto industry. I am not a fan of chebbys, but I wouldn't wish this on my enemies. History, over and over proves that this doesn't work. Why can't people see this?

By the way. I am going to go measure for that speaker. I will pm you or give you a call.

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I'll be damned if I am just going to sit around and let this happen to MY country. I am an 'American' who actually believes in the Constitution. (you know... that little piece of paper that founded our nation and guided it into the greatest and most prosperous nation in the world.)

just go stick your head back in the sand comrade

To quote a great neocon "It's just a God damned piece of paper". In any event , I agree 100% with you skosler. Too many people bury their head in the sand and are too afraid of irritating anyone to have an discussion about politics, or too "busy" to educate themselves. It's all excuses. Seems like people are afraid of having an intelligent political discussion anymore, maybe something to do with the maturity level of all the folks with their hand out. Wake up and smell the jenkum!
 

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you must have a really boring life, everything you say is political, I bet you got beat up a lot in school, didn't you? :D :D

No, not really. When I was growing up I learned to work hard, not blame all my problems on others and not look for a handout. I didn't really have time to fight, now stop throwing stones:)
 

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Harold, you seem to only have a problem with liberal negative comments. If threads that Skosler's starts bother you THEN DON'T READ THEM!!! It pretty much shows which person you voted for as president. Well when boy blunder gets all his tree hugging mileage bullshit shoved down are throats will he still be your hero? His next brain fart will be on BBF you are only allowed to run 1 cylinder at a time. Plus they must be destroked to a 1" stoke and sleeved to a 1" bore. I hear he is working with Briggs and Stratton to create a 3.5 HP sedan and a 5.0 HP hot rod model. I know we are suppose to stay clear of political BS, but now are very hobby is in are socialist govs. sights. To think this is all just going to go away is the same as sticking your head under your pillow!
 

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No, not really. When I was growing up I learned to work hard, not blame all my problems on others and not look for a handout. I didn't really have time to fight, now stop throwing stones:)
Not throwing stones, just you never post anything that isn't political, or looking for guns or ammo, you going to shoot someone? :D
 

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So, what are you trying to say? He can say what he wants, but I can't, b.s., I don't agree with what he, or you say so I am wrong, don't think so.

Not at all Harold, start your own thread "Obama is the greatest". I promise I won't comment on YOUR thread.
 
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