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its been a few years since i have had a truck. been thinking about getting a Toyota Tundra 4WD Truck any 1 know any good or bad about that truck. my brother has a chevy about a year and a half had he has a lift on the truck abd had to replace the a arms on the truck because u cant just replace the ball joint. im a ford man and was thinking about getting a ford just dont know.
 

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If its used i'd be weary about the frames on the yota. they've had recalls and trouble with the frames rusting out. Even the new ones seem to be behind the 8 ball in the frame department. fwiw. I'm not a yota fan, but lots of people seem to like them. I hate to admit it but i have a new dodge and i like it. :(
Really though for all intents and purposes i dont think you can really go wrong with any of the big 5. They have all made their stuff better because of each other.
cept for chevy....they'll always have their weak front end components, and electronic problems. :D
 

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A buddy has a Toy and pulls a 5th wheel trailer with it. Takes it on some pretty long trips. He says it has lots of power, pulls big hills no problem. He has had it about a year.

We have a new Dodge too and it is a great truck. It gets 21-23 MPG on the highway. It gets 16-18 pulling a 3000 lbs enclosed trailer too!! Almost 400HP.

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We have a new Dodge too and it is a great truck. It gets 21-23 MPG on the highway. It gets 16-18 pulling a 3000 lbs enclosed trailer too!! Almost 400HP.

Bill
yeah i got the 390hp hemi.... the 11mpg city driving mileage isnt overly impressive though. :rolleyes:
I thought with the coil sprung rear it'd be a handfull while pulling but it wasnt bad with a 2500 lbs trailer.
It was the wifes doing.... her leased Dakota was gonna kill us with extra charges, and She says my old F250 is a piece of ****.:confused::confused:
when you buy one they make the extra charges on the lease return disappear, and at $32,000 and 0% finance........ its a good deal so what do you do.

do you find it hard to keep your foot out of the oil pan too??...
 

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You don't have to worry about the frames on the Tundra. The only bad thing is GAS MILEAGE. My friend has a 06 and he can't get past a gas station.:(
 

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i have a ford expedition with the 5.4 with a 3 body lift and 35 inch tall tires and it gets 7-8 mpg and if im pulling a trailer even less. it dont get drove much any more. its not going to be a daily driver so the gas mileage is not to big of a deal.
 

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yeah i got the 390hp hemi.... the 11mpg city driving mileage isnt overly impressive though. :rolleyes:
I thought with the coil sprung rear it'd be a handfull while pulling but it wasnt bad with a 2500 lbs trailer.
It was the wifes doing.... her leased Dakota was gonna kill us with extra charges, and She says my old F250 is a piece of ****.:confused::confused:
when you buy one they make the extra charges on the lease return disappear, and at $32,000 and 0% finance........ its a good deal so what do you do.

do you find it hard to keep your foot out of the oil pan too??...
Yeah our thing was a lease return too. We were way over the mileage limit. They couldn't get us the fairly stripped one we wanted so they sold us a loaded one for the same price.

It is very hard not to be sampling the power often!!! Thus the 11 mpg city!!

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I have an 07 Crewmax, roughly 34K on it to date. I have not one complaint about it. I have had 5 tacoma's and this is my first full size that i owned but have driven the others. I get around 17/18 mpg on my daily commute which is a mix between city/highway driving. I have hauled a pallet full of stone in the bed and truck drove pretty well azz end was sagging pretty well due to the weight but still accelerated/stopped good. I have also towed my car (probably around 7K lbs total) and didn't even notice it back there. Truck accelerated very well considering the extra weight, was only a little slower then it is with nothing in the back. I would recommend the truck to anyone looking for a full size.
 

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http://www.fordvehicles.com/2009F150/ Here's a few tests for you, Watch them and make your own decision......Maverick summed it up quite well. My neighbor and mudding partner has a 07 tundra, Not a bad truck and he can badly beat my o7 supercrew racing but, Loaded with a 7000LB trailer he cant even come close.
 

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Hey if you are talking new truck, wait for the new F-250:)

If you want to buy used, buy one of the 2008-2010 F-250s getting traded in on the new 2011 F-250;)


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Opinions definitely vary, but I and my family has always had good results with Ford trucks. As far as new goes, I have several buddies with 04 and up F-150s as well as superdutys and they love em, you can't go wrong with them.

As has been said above, theres a good reason they sell more trucks than everyone else.
 

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I know both the Tundra and Tacoma were having frame issues and Toyota was willing to either fix it or buy the truck back for like a 120-150% book value.

One of my customers had a Tacoma and I told them about the recall. When I went back there a year later, he said he took it in and they gave him 18g for it and he only paid 13g. He thanked me, I expected a 5g tip lol, that didn't happen.
 

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OK, I bit my tongue until it bleed.
I guess I would ask. Where do you live? Where do you hope for your children to live and prosper?
If that is in America, then you need to support America. Supporting America is more that paying taxes and waving the flag.
When my son returned from his Army tour in Afghanistan he wanted a new truck. My guidance to him was, the money you have came from tax paying Americans. What kind of person would take that money and give it to a foreign company and country? He purchased a Dodge. When he returned from Iraq he purchased a Victory motorcycle.
Here in Indiana we have 7,000 people building transmissions for Chrysler. Less than half that number in southern Indiana would have you believe they build a Toyota from scratch. Toyota has never created ONE new job. Each job they have made is at the expense of 3 to 4 jobs in our legacy auto companies. The number of American jobs per car for the foreign builders does not compare to our domestic builders.
Some years ago Honda wanted to export their Marysville cars to Canada as an American car under NAFTA. Canada ask, what is your American content? Honda told them 80%. Canada ask to do an audit. Want to guess what Canada said the American content was? 16%, this per Business Week Magazine.
There are more American jobs in a Dodge truck assembled in Mexico than in a Marysville Honda.
Back in the sixties Canada and the USA came to an agreement. Canada would stop their tariffs and requirements for cars sold in Canada to be made in Canada. The American car companies needed to make enough jobs so employment would be the same as if the car was built there. This is equal and fair trade. So now we have F150’s assembled in Canada and 351’s made in Cleveland and Windsor Canada.
In October of this year the Wall Street Journal said the contribution to our economy by the domestic built foreign autos was “insignificant”.
I am tired of seeing our politicians crawling overseas begging for jobs. Let’s support our companies and make our own jobs here! I will not say our CEO’s have done us well. But we can’t through the baby out with the bath water.
In AutoWeek some time back a reader asks why we were buying all these foreign cars. He said he was Korean by birth and American by choice. He said “if someone in Korea buys an American car the neighbors will break all the glass and they won’t wait until dark to do it”.
At a job fair after lots of us lost out jobs to out sourcing I saw an ex-fellow employee. I ask where he was working. He told me at a tool and die company that made parts for Toyota and other foreign cars companies building cars here. I said wonderful!! An American company making parts for foreign car companies. He said no, we employees are the only thing American in the plant. Every tool, machine, measuring devise, cutting bit and etc is from Japan. We are not allowed to buy American. If we run out of set screws, allen wrenches or anything we will wait until we can get if from Japan. We are told “you are here to support Japan”.
The last I know Federal Mogul had never sold an engine bearing to a Japanese engine company. They can’t get the specs or requirements and are not given the opportunity to bid on the job.
We have the power!! If we don’t buy these products we will strengthen our country and economy. Our government can’t take this kind of stand because we are already indebt and beholding to them. It must be a grass roots movement.
An American flag decal in the back window of a Toyota does not indicate a patriot but a hypocrite!
I am proud to drive American!

Respectfully, Warren
 
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