Help with putting a 429 in a 68 mustang Pleaseee!

I have a 68 mustang with that i am changing over to a v8. Everyone is telling me that it's to hard and to try to put something else in. I am tired of them telling me that and i want to show everyone that it can be done!! Can anyone tell me where to start and also i have a 4 speed top loader from a 64 mustang and was wondering will it work with the big block or do i have to buy a big block manual tranny?? thanks in advance.

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192.223.163.5 It can be done.
No score for this post September 10 2001, 11:32 PM

The 68's came with 390, 427, and 428.

Now I don't know off the top of my head what the dimensions of a 429 are as compared to the FE's, but I do know that Crites Restoration will provide engine, tranny, headers, and radiator for stuffing a 429/460 into your 68.

You should also be prepared to change from springs as well.

At a stretch ($$), you could remove the shock towers and go with a mustang II front end with rack-n-pinion and never scuff your hands changing plugs or fastening headers, but you gotta be prepared to part with $2k.
goto: http://www.flosc.net/rcmotorsports/
for more info.

Of course, a 351W (stroked to 427) will make your life a whole lot easier...and with the weight/HP ratio, you will still melt rubber with reckless abandon.

Sorry about your friends lack of faith, imagination, and knowledge. <hehehe>

Cheers

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192.223.163.5 What great timing...
No score for this post September 10 2001, 11:41 PM

I just read another post regarding the MPG web site.
You wanna know if you can stuff a 429 into a 68...check out this page:
http://www.mpgheads.com/mtrmnthdr.htm

Pay close attention to how tight those plug wires come to the shock towers. Tight as a knats ***....eh ?!?!

I would ask the question, "How do I change the 2,3,6,7 plugs...I'd love to hear the answer.

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Bob M
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63.25.252.213 Changing plugs...
No score for this post September 11 2001, 12:49 AM

Pulling the valve-covers helps in both an FE and 460 'Stang. A swivel head ratchet also. The Fordmuscle web mag. notched the shock-towers on their 460 '69 (same engine compartment as 68) the second time around. http://fordmuscle.com

Bob

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David Kee
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24.28.145.10 changing plugs
No score for this post October 16 2001, 2:35 PM

On my Falcon with the 429 I use a piece of hose to start the spark plug in the hole. After it is started you can put a spark plug socket on it and tighten it with an open end wrench. Having the valve covers off helps with the plugs and is a must to get the center spark plug wires on all the way.

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Chad
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12.1.4.8 Cut an area in wheel well
No score for this post October 16 2001, 12:29 PM

Cut and area in the wheel well where the plugs are at so. All you have to do is take the front tire off and reach in there with you wrench and get it out. Then cover the with sheet metal cut to size and paint to match. Or something along those lines would work if you don't care to much about originality.

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Bob M
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63.25.252.213 Crites and Mpg Head Serv...
No score for this post September 11 2001, 1:23 AM

The Crites kit uses Boss 429 mounts, and their headers, and is the cheapest way to do it. The MPG kit uses custom mounts and MPG's headers and sets the engine lower in the chassis, but is more expensive ($695.00?). Ford Muscle Web Magazine used the crites stuff, I think, when installing the 460 crate engine in their '69 Mach1. (67-70 Stangs have similar eng.compartments)
http://www.fordmuscle.com click on project 460.
http://www.critesrestoration.com
http://www.mpgheads.com

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Bob M
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63.25.252.213 Toploader/460...
No score for this post September 11 2001, 1:32 AM

I thought '64 stangs came with the Borge-Warner T-10?...Anyway...
To put your Toploader behind a 460, you'll need a standard-shift 460 bellhousing, clutch/pressure-plate, flywheel. David Kee is the expert on this subject.
http://www.4speedtoploaders.com/

Good Luck!
Bob

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Art
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205.188.196.24 SB Toploader Behind a 385 series engine
No score for this post October 17 2001, 12:44 AM

Get a late model Mustang 5.0 roller pilot bushing, drive it in. If you got a BB tranny, use a 390 pilot bushing. 390 flywheels fit 429/460's (internally balanced). I used a 77 351M bell housing.

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StickBBF
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205.158.104.42 FE vs. 385-series Flywheels...
No score for this post October 18 2001, 4:31 PM

Art,
If I'm recalling correctly, I think the 385-series (429/460) engines used a 176-tooth flywheel and FE (390, 427, 428) engines used a 184-tooth flywheel. If that's so, it may be that an FE "ring gear" will physically fit onto the flywheel body meant for a 429/460; however, such a move may cause a problem with the correct tooth mesh between the starter-to-flywheel gears, right?

It sounded as though you've already done it - did you noticed any such problem?

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David Kee
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24.28.145.10 385 Flywheels
No score for this post October 18 2001, 6:54 PM

The spacing from front to rear is different on the ring gear. The tooth count does not pose a real problem and the diameter is real close. The starter will only engage about 1/3 of the tooth on the ring gear on a 390 flywheel. The best deal is to use a 385 series flywheel and don't sweat it.

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StickBBF
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205.158.104.42 Thanks for the...
No score for this post October 19 2001, 12:44 PM

Clarification, Mr. Kee! I've wondered for a while just what was the deal between the two flywheels.

I'm looking forward to the new pics of your racecar!

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FPX
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209.240.222.132 NO CUTTING NEEDED IF INSTALLED RIGHT!!
No score for this post October 23 2001, 5:11 PM

This is a bolt in swap NO cutting needed. Email if you have questions. Chet

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bluetech
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202.138.163.86 Try this
No score for this post November 4 2001, 2:09 AM

Maybe this guy can help you! http://www.geocities.com/slariviere/460-67Stang.html

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bob guthery
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64.12.105.39 1968 mustang with 460
No score for this post November 7 2001, 1:13 AM

get 1 inch & a 1 eight input & out put shaft top loader the trans you have wont handle the power the hardest part was building headers the rest was simple ray and i did it in 4 [email protected]