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When the hell did it become cool to drive an imported vehicle? When the Hell did it become OK to sell out your country in the name of irritating sounding mufflers and an absence of leg room. Would you not rather have a vehicle that 1. Supports your Country, 2. Runs and Sounds Bad ***, and 3. Has a large enough back seat to fit both you and the trophy girl after the race? I am not what you would call old school (33 years old) but my grandfather (A die hard Ford Man), taught me to have pride in my country and to buy American. One of the only times I heard the man use profanity in public was the day he picked up his Mercury from a local garage only to find out that the mechanic had installed NGK Spark Plugs instead of Motorcraft. I didn't know he knew those kind of words. I took what the man said to heart and am an honorably discharged veteran of the U.S. Army with two vehicles a 04' Ford F-150 and a 60' Galaxie Starliner. Both were built in America. So what the hell is everyone's problem. We all know that the "American Cars Don't Last" BS is just that. That 60' is living proof. They don't cost less anymore and now-a- days they don't get any better gas mileage. Can anyone here come up with a good reason to buy an imported vehicle? Sorry, had to get that off my chest, a "fart-Can" Muffler just woke up my 6 month old. I think I will let my brother hold on to my firearms for a while (joking). Your responses and/or anti-import rhetoric are welcome as is anyone in my home who feels the same.
 

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do fords imported from europe count? i had a 1980 fiesta- great mileage... and i want a 1971-78 capri... preferably 71 with the 1.6l... otherwise my collection is all american.
 

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Assuming by "import" you mean Japanese, then yes I agree completely. I have 2 german cars that kick *** though. They don't sound like ****, and they are fast as hell. I also have a Bronco, so I do like American. Honestly though, only the older American. The quality is just not comparable in the newer stuff.
 

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I respect the buy American mentality and all things being equal, I'll go with the domestic. But if a particular foreign car fits my needs better, I have no problem going with it.

Right now I have a german, 2 japanese and 2 domestics (one being the BB fox) and very happy with them all.
 

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Thank you for the replies. In the case of the cars imported under the Ford name I don't blame you for wanting them as it is well...a Ford! The problem with that is that it was even the case to begin with, as the over extension of resources from our boys at Dearborn are one of the many reasons we are in this mess. I have tried to explain to many that the reason vehicles built during the so called "Dark Days of Detroit" had a bad reputation was not due so much to "Lack of Competition" as has been stated by the so called experts, but rather the fact that during that time, small engines, emissions, and "Hi-Tech" automotive efforts were in their infancy and subsequently left much to be desired. For example, lets not blame my infant son for crapping his pants, as I'm sure he will use the toilet with a little more practice. The proof of this lies in the fact that you good people can pull that crap off and build a very reliable and fast motor. Scott "The Mad Porter" for example, probably builds a much better 460 than he does a 1.4L Fart Can Sound Activator. Not saying that he can't build a good one, just saying a man is good at what he knows best. If you really look at the so called "American Cars" of that era one will find that many had imported engines and the like. Well, If I was an import car maker trying to make it big in the states I would build crappy engines for the opposition as well!
As far as the "Fart Can Muffler" goes the only solution to this as I see it is to keep beating these people in races so as to make them less appealing to the younger crowd that likes them. We already beat them in the looks and style department, we beat them in performance, we beat them in ergonomics, now lets just beat them! Remember gentleman, time and pressure is all it takes. So lets all take a vow to race and beat at least one imported vehicle a day. Its fun and its certain!
 

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So true, so true. Maybe I should put a fart-can on the starliner. I bet that would improve performance and all around driveability. Or maybe an oversized wing so I dont fly off IH 35 going to a car show.

I have two questions for MARKO.

1. Why do "Fart-Can" cars continue to thrive in Australia despite a hungry Great White Shark populaton you could feed the owners to?

2. Why in the Mad-Max Movies does the world end and yet only cool cars and bondage clothing survive? This would add weight to my argument about products from "The Big Three" (The Cars Lasted). But I feel conflicted at the same time, as I know I would never look right with a ball-gag and assless leather chaps.
 

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Well GAL60...lets see..hmmm..
1. Even White pointer sharks have standards in this life,and eating "fart muffler" owners would give them bad indigestion!
2.Yes. It does add weight to your argument about products from the big three. But bondage clothing has survived for centuries strangly enough.
So I say the ones the sharks dont eat, we gather all the fart muffler owners around and see if the gag ball's and assless chaps make them feel more comfortable...and im betting it will!!haha
 

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Hey guys, before you use the "buy american" logo.. Can someone tell me what is the definition of a "Domestic" auto? My escort was built in Mexico. My brother's honda was built in Canada. My Dad's toyota in Canada as well. I'm just not sure what I should be calling a Domestic anymore.
 

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That’s a good one Marko. I like the whole “Even Sharks Have Standards “ part.
The way I view what is or is not a domestic auto these days is the two out of three rule. A vehicle must be American at least two out of three, some examples are:

1. My 2004 F-150 is built by Ford, an American Company, designed by an American, and manufactured in St. Louis, MO. This makes this without a doubt a Domestic Auto. Yes, It does have some Canadian part content. This I view the same as borrowing a torque wrench from your upstairs neighbor because you’re too cheap to buy or rent one yourself.

2. The next category is those cars like in Marko’s Country. Ford is an American company. The design was a joint America-Australian venture. This some times works out better. Think about the Australian 351C Cylinder Head (best of both worlds). These cars are built in Australia, which means money for their workers and money coming back to America due to who owns it. This I would call a mostly domestic automobile.

3. This category is where things get bad. Someone earlier mentioned Toyota. Ah yes, those nice people that brought you Pearl Harbor. A vehicle designed by the Japanese, with parts made in Canada, assembled in America with money going back to Japan. These vehicles are very “Fart Can” prone. This is not a Domestic Vehicle. This is a damn shame.

4. This last one covers European automobiles. These cars are European Owned, and designed, built in Europe, with money going back to Europe. They are not Domestic vehicles. They are very reliable, well designed, and they don’t have fart cans. As far as I know, have not attempted to enter NASCAR, NHRA, or any other American Racing sanctioning body. (Its ok for us to enter their races as we have Mr. Shelby) I do not consider these cars as a threat to America as they keep to themselves and Generally speaking are beyond the reach of the common man.

Well there it is fellas. Hope that clears up the Domestic Vehicle Question. I will be happy to answer any questions you may have on the subject based on the "World According to GAL60" standard if you wish.
 

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LOL. I do sort of agree with you, but really only concerning Japanese vehicles. I loved my Audi's, but they were a major pain to work on. And even minor repairs could end up being costly. After a while I was looking for something different, and certainly much simpler. That's where the Fairlane comes in.. Unique vehicle that stands out, without being too costly or difficult to repair (unless of course you blow the engine, which I did recently.) In the end I miss some of the comforts of my Audis, but my new love is a Ford :)
 

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No not a bad thing if you can sneak your car into the joint. What would you do without it?

I have a solution to this problem. The next time we need a vehicle for economical reasons (something a 460 will never be),Instead of going imported we could all go out and get I-6 Ford Falcons. Yes Sir, the price is usually decent, Good on Gas, Looks Cool, and Fenton makes those neat tri-power intakes for them. That would be there to allow AKB a chance to get frustrated at an american vehicle instead of his old SAAB. You see it all works out when you switch to American.
 

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I got my I6 Falcon LOL 1963 Falcon with factory buckets and a console Neat car to drive and it turns headfs and generates LOTS of complements I have been offered double my purchase price twice and one offered triple
 

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3. This category is where things get bad. Someone earlier mentioned Toyota. Ah yes, those nice people that brought you Pearl Harbor. A vehicle designed by the Japanese, with parts made in Canada, assembled in America with money going back to Japan. These vehicles are very “Fart Can” prone. This is not a Domestic Vehicle. This is a damn shame.
Well in addition to the American workers who assembled the car, there's also the American workers who sold and serviced it too. And don't forget the American workers who built the dealership. Then of course is the taxes paid to the U.S. gov't. And finally (altho I probably missed something) is the American citizens who own the stock.

But definitely don't take this as me being pro-import cause that's the furtherst thing from the truth. Just trying to make myself feel better for owning a G35.
 

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Cool, would like to dig on the pics on that falcon sometime. I used to have a 64' Futura Hardtop w/302.

TaxMan its not your fault, Communism is like the devil or an evil women, you think its beautiful at first until you wake up and realize you have fallen prey to them (LOL). Just remember it’s not important what has happened, only what is to happen. In this case, when it comes time to trade in the Infinity, look over at your friendly Ford dealer for that $150,000 GT. This would more than make up for purchasing the G35, and you could always thank you're good friend GAL60 by giving him a ride in it. See how happy things become when we all buy American!
 
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