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There is a great great sticky for cylinder head pecking order so I wanted to start one myself with the help of those on the forum regarding intake manifolds. Will people please add their oppinions on this subject and different intakes and where they should rank in the scale. Thank you tons everyone making this happen, it will greatly help young, inexperienced builders like myself that plan on a life of engine building and performance. And we won't bug the **** out of all of you with questions. Here is what I have so far.....

thanks again,

chuck






429/460 INTAKE MANIFOLD PECKING ORDER

NAME/RPM RANGE/PRICE
Tunnel Ram…..

TFS-54494000 R series A460 Tunnel Ram/4500-8500/$614.95----------Best for use with A460 heads. Can fit any family of head with adapter plates from Price Motorsports.
Weiand Hi-Ram/2800-9000/$359.95----------Can be used with standard production 429/460 heads. Port match recommended.


Single Plane…..

TFS-54400111 R series A460/3500-8000/$634.95----------Best for use with A460 heads. Can fit any family of head with adapter plates from Price Motorsports.
TFS-53400111 Track Heat/3500-8000/$399.95----------Can be used with standard production 429/460 heads. Port match recommended.
Edelbrock Victor/3500-8000/$305.95----------Can be used with standard production 429/460 heads. Port match recommended.
Ford Racing Single Plane Dominator/3500-8000/$335.95----------Can be used with standard production 429/460 heads. Port match recommended.
Offenhauser Port-O-Sonic/2500-6500/$200----------Can be used with standard production 429/460 heads. Port match recommended.
Edelbrock Torker II/2500-6500/$259.95----------Can be used with standard production 429/460 heads. Port match recommended.



Dual Plane…..

Blue Thunder Dual Quad/not for sure/not for sure----------Uses two 4 barrel carburetors. Works best with Blue Thunder Heads. Can be used with standard production 429/460 heads. Port match recommended.
Weiand 8021/Idle-6800/$219.95----------Can be used with standard production 429/460 heads. Cobra Jet sized port openings works best with CJ heads. Larger intake runners.
Edelbrock Performer RPM Air Gap/1500-6500/$342.95----------Can be used with standard production 429/460 heads. Best to keep intake charge cool. Larger intake runners.
Edelbrock Performer RPM/1500-6500/$239.95----------Can be used with standard production 429/460 heads. Larger intake runners.
Weiand 8012/Idle-6800/$185.95----------Can be used with standard production 429/460 heads. Recommend gasket match.
Police Interceptor and SCJ iron intake/Idle-6500/$150----------Can be used with standard production 429/460 heads. Larger intake runners. Cobra Jet sized port opennings.
Edelbrock Performer/Idle-5500/$229.95----------Can be used with standard production 429/460 heads. Recommend gasket match.
Stocker 429 and 460 iron intake/Idle-5500/$50----------Can be used with standard production 429/460 heads. Recommend gasket match.


These intake manifolds are in their stock form and unported.

At the top of the list is the tunnel ram style intake that is designed for high rpm hp and tend to be best for strip style setups that will see frequent high rpm passes. Tunnel Ram intakes give up tq down low and street friendliness for the unmatched flow at high end.

The single plane is best for a street strip style setup that will maintain streetability but needs the performance at the top end for a weekend trip to the races. Some bottom end is given up with this style but intake velocity and plenum volume is still kept at a reasonable rate to allow great performance in mid-range as well as top end.

Dual plane intake manifolds offer the best option for low end torque and mid range power. The idle quality tends to be a little better and fuel consumption tends to be a little better. Dual plane intakes may require a slightly larger carb to feed the engine efficiently. Plenum volume can be increased with a carb spacer to help bridge the gap to a single plane intake.

This list shows the top of the list being the highest flow and least streetablity. the bottom then shows the most streetability and best option for low end tq. Different combinations call for different intake manifolds and as the displacement goes up, so will the required flow. That said, they will all still tend to have the same characteristics regardless of displacement.

The prices listed are for unpolished finish so you can have some sort of idea what to expect for a price and if you are getting a good deal on a used piece. Prices are from summitracing.com for the most part so there may be better deals out there.

There are also adapter plates made by Price Motorsports that can fit any family of intake to any family of heads..........(read on)

courtesy of charlie evans

Yes, Price Motorsports makes some adaptors for the BB Ford. Their adapter that I am aware of, and have used, allows one to install a OEM oval port DOVE/CJ style manifold on A-460 heads. That's all.

I make adapters to install A-460 manifolds such as the TFS, on C-460 heads, and also another set to install A-460 manifolds on Pro-Filer 205 heads.

I also make the spacers required to install the FRPP C-460 intake manifold on Pro-Filer 205 heads.

Hope this helps,
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Charlie Evans


courtesy of rmcomprandy

Charlie you missed this one,
Price also makes adapters to install a standard intake manifold on the later F.I. production heads.
 

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checked out the thread and site, great start but I am looking for a little more detail. I wish I had enough knowledge to start this thing.
 

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will do, I'm starting it tonight. Looking for support from all and if anyone has any reason for me to change what I have or add to it, I will be extremely happy to hear from you and add your intake.
 

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Very good read Pope, thank you.
Rob
Your welcome. I found it (thread on this site) last week. Who knew that using the "Search" function would find such information! :eek: :rolleyes: :D
 

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That is what I'm hoping. I would like a little more info and I will edit and make this a bit more detailed and add more intakes as well. I am looking for input so we can make this worth keeping. Am I missing any intakes that you can think of that are still readily available?
 

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imo there is no "pecking order" for intakes... its whatever fits your application... if you run a small cam with a victor- its going to lose too much low end and the cam isnt going to allow enough rpm to get the port velocity up enough to bring it into the powerband where the intake works properly... likewise with a huge cam and a regular performer intake the small runners are going to be a restriction when getting the cam into the rpm range it likes... its all about the combo
 

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True, but that's the same it is with cylinder heads. Not much point in putting max ported C heads on a stock grocery getter. But I think the pecking order list is a good thing. A lot of times someone may think, "I want an intake with more high rpm performance than a performer but don't know if a Stealth would be a step up or down from a Performer RPM".
 

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imo there is no "pecking order" for intakes... its whatever fits your application... if you run a small cam with a victor- its going to lose too much low end and the cam isnt going to allow enough rpm to get the port velocity up enough to bring it into the powerband where the intake works properly... likewise with a huge cam and a regular performer intake the small runners are going to be a restriction when getting the cam into the rpm range it likes... its all about the combo
This is why I have the rpm range listed as well as the orginization in streetability. No one will look at this list and think that a victor intake with the rpm range of 3500-8000 will work well with their truck peaking at 4500 and built for torque. This is a baseline to get people on the right track so they don't start chasing tunnel ram intakes with large chambered stock D3VE heads because other hot rods have them and they look cool.

I appreciate the encouragement scottjackson.

I updated, tell me what you think. it looks a little prettier......
 

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Well, YEAH, Chuck, Hot Rods DO look cool with a Tunnel ram! lol Now, If I can figure out how to get just ONE more 4 BBL Holley on my set up..... lol Yup, that's turning into a pretty cool list!
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I don't think there's much point in going into sheet metal intakes and such on this list. Kinda like including the A441 hemi heads in the head pecking order list. Anyone actually thinking of buying those parts doesn't (or shouldn't) need to refer to a basic list like this.
 

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I don't think there's much point in going into sheet metal intakes and such on this list. Kinda like including the A441 hemi heads in the head pecking order list. Anyone actually thinking of buying those parts doesn't (or shouldn't) need to refer to a basic list like this.
good point, that makes sense. Any other info I should include on the manifolds that people can take into consideration when deciding?
 

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As the combinations and usages change ... the so called "pecking order" will also change.
 

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As the combinations and usages change ... the so called "pecking order" will also change.
I understand that randy, again though, this is to get the average person into the ballpark for their intended usage. If it is for a vehicle that will see low rpm usage, it should be clear from the list and my description of the list that it is not effective for a single plane or tunnel intake. and it goes both ways, same for a street/strip engine not working well with a cj or performer intake. No person in their right mind should think that the tunnel is good for driving to work, the store, then back home, every day with stock heads, cam, and exhaust. No single manifold is pointed out as the best for any specific situation.
 

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I understand that randy, again though, this is to get the average person into the ballpark for their intended usage. If it is for a vehicle that will see low rpm usage,
Well, then the pecking order is upside down then. The Port-O-Sonic will make the best torque out of all the production headed single plane manifolds listed. I feel that is more important down low than HP, while still makeing good street/strip power
 
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