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does he have motor out of car he can hold them up to to see if thay are below the pan, lady at crites doesnt know and nobody there to tell her, I only have 4" below my pan
 

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Which pan do you have? I have them on my Canton deep sump. You can see where they hang on my Fairlane in the pic below...it is the front 2 pipes on each side that hang low. They actually angle back when on the motor so the bend on the front pipes is the lowest part. I have not had a problem scraping yet but I am running 90/10 shocks and BB springs.
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