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What do you guys think the effect of this show is going to be on the average hot-rod guy, and the sport as a whole? I like that they're keeping things relatively safe by not screwing around in traffic, but they also seem to be gaining some unwanted attention from law enforcement by being on television.

I'm concerned about the average hobbyist getting more attention from local police because "they're not going to let anything like that happen on their turf". Any of you guys hear or see anything happening? Local wanna-be racers causing trouble, or guys getting hassled for nothing more than a car on a trailer?
 

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not againist the law to have a car on a trailer! but like you said it will make the cops in your city take a look at the cars that's leaving the car shows of such! or late nite drives!
 

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We used to go to the "air port" in Del Norte when I was a kid late at night to race. I'm not sure if we were worried about safety or not getting caught, I think the police knew what we were doing but we never saw them out there. Hopefully the people watching aren't putting others in danger.
 

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no worst then the fast and stupid shows did, they promoted racing in town , In traffic, and where there were side streets.

SOL'S is a lot better then that other stuff. At least it is drag racing!
 

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Simply put, its fake!!
Its TV.
I know the cars are real, but that whole show is scripted and choreographed.
Their so-called "racing" takes place on closed roads, or airport runways with police permission.
 

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Simply put, its fake!!
Its TV.
I know the cars are real, but that whole show is scripted and choreographed.
Their so-called "racing" takes place on closed roads, or airport runways with police permission.
I agree... after about 2-3 episodes I caught on to the show. it was kinda like the wrecker repo shows the wife made me watch.. after about 3 episodes I told her it looked like the fake wresteling shows I uded to watch as a kid.. she was so disgusted when I started show her all the fake hits and b/s that was going on with the show.she was BAMBOOZLED...LOL!!!!
 

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Simply put, its fake!!
Its TV.
I know the cars are real, but that whole show is scripted and choreographed.
Their so-called "racing" takes place on closed roads, or airport runways with police permission.
There's no question the show is fake/lame/scripted, that's not what I'm talking about here. Not a chance a TV network would expose themselves to the liability of being involved in real illegal activity.

These guys were street racing before the show, and they'll be doing it after the show is gone. My concern is that the show is glamorizing an illegal sub-culture of our sport/hobby and that people who otherwise might not have gotten involved in this kind of activity will start forming their own local groups and heading out in the wee hours of the morning to race on the streets. The PTA moms are going to be "concerned" and cops are going to be ramping up enforcement to "keep the kids safe".

We saw a huge surge in the popularity of drag racing with Pinks and Pinks All Out. I used to receive calls from customers all the time telling me they were building a car for the show. Small local tracks were seeing increased numbers. Big tracks were seeing more people show up for Pinks All Out than they did for the NHRA pros. After the show was killed by Nascar, it all started going away. Tracks are closing and the sport is dieing again.

I've been hoping somebody would put the dots together and bring back some sort of racing show, the opposite has happened. Speed network is gone, and it's getting hard to find any legitimate car-culture based programing. Sure there's the thirty minute info-mercial "how-to" shows, and some auction based stuff, but none of that involves actual enthusiasts building and racing their cars. We can either watch shows that are trying to sell parts that most people can't afford, or shows about people buying and selling cars as commodities.

Street Outlaws is the only programing I can think of with actual enthusiasts. Sure the show is fake, but they were car guys before the show and they'll be car guys after it's gone. I just can't decide if this show will bring people back to the hobby, or if it's going to be the last nail in the coffin.


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Although they race under safe conditions most of those cars seem 'scary fast' for street racing, plus it's against the law. This may sound corny, but maybe if they tuned the show around and have these guys race on a santioned dragstrip a better example would delivered. Of course this won't happen with a reality show.
IMO... the show will eventually draw a bunch of young copy cats and someone will be killed and the cops and/or concerned parents will "make an example" and crack down on the rest of us.
 

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I don't know if it will make street racing any bigger or more popular then it was before the show but if and when there is an arrest or accident the media and law enforcement will push the show as the cause for a "sudden rise" in problems. Get ready for "Street Outlaw" laws to be passed in the name of public safety.
 

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I don't street race as I don't want to pay the price if I was busted. As far as people who watch a show and then want to do things, want a bees.
I have liked since I was a kid. Wanted to drag race once I had my own car. No tv show or movie moves me one way or another. Shows such as pass time only make me wish I was at the track not the couch watching.

I don't have cable or satellite TV. I stream the things I watch over the internet. I like to choose what I watch. In modern times I don't see how channels the way you know them will last. With programing to suit a model.

Oh on a side note never even heard of that show.:confused:
 

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Soon as they crash one of those big tire promods on the street there will be new legislation about racing. Even though the show is scripted and the roads are closed I can see it being used as a weapon against racers.

It is good entertainment though.
 

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There's no question the show is fake/lame/scripted, that's not what I'm talking about here. Not a chance a TV network would expose themselves to the liability of being involved in real illegal activity.

These guys were street racing before the show, and they'll be doing it after the show is gone. My concern is that the show is glamorizing an illegal sub-culture of our sport/hobby and that people who otherwise might not have gotten involved in this kind of activity will start forming their own local groups and heading out in the wee hours of the morning to race on the streets. The PTA moms are going to be "concerned" and cops are going to be ramping up enforcement to "keep the kids safe".

We saw a huge surge in the popularity of drag racing with Pinks and Pinks All Out. I used to receive calls from customers all the time telling me they were building a car for the show. Small local tracks were seeing increased numbers. Big tracks were seeing more people show up for Pinks All Out than they did for the NHRA pros. After the show was killed by Nascar, it all started going away. Tracks are closing and the sport is dieing again.

I've been hoping somebody would put the dots together and bring back some sort of racing show, the opposite has happened. Speed network is gone, and it's getting hard to find any legitimate car-culture based programing. Sure there's the thirty minute info-mercial "how-to" shows, and some auction based stuff, but none of that involves actual enthusiasts building and racing their cars. We can either watch shows that are trying to sell parts that most people can't afford, or shows about people buying and selling cars as commodities.

Street Outlaws is the only programing I can think of with actual enthusiasts. Sure the show is fake, but they were car guys before the show and they'll be car guys after it's gone. I just can't decide if this show will bring people back to the hobby, or if it's going to be the last nail in the coffin.


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Yes, I see what you're saying Carl.
Its a two edged sword.....the media loves to expose and/or sensationalize every little thing it can for its own purpose.
The true street racers will continue to be the ones out there doing it, regardless of whats portrayed on TV.
In my area, we already have a group of street racers who kinda model themselves after the show.....meaning that they are keeping score in a similar manner like those guys on TV.

The show recently came out here to SoCal, and a few very fast local street racers were "chosen" to be on the show, and they were told NOT to win against the OKC boys by the producers!!
As as far as its impact on society, yes I think there will be more attention / awareness placed on the activity.....especially since the crash and death of actor Paul Walker, who was put into the illegal street racer catagory by the media before the fire was put out.

We as hot rodders need to keep a lower profile and just not drive like idiots on the public streets when we are out in our hot rod cars, because everybody will be watching us.

But after everyone has gone to bed, and the nighttime has fallen upon the land, we'll line em up on a deserted backroad!!
 

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We as hot rodders need to keep a lower profile and just not drive like idiots on the public streets when we are out in our hot rod cars, because everybody will be watching us.

But after everyone has gone to bed, and the nighttime has fallen upon the land, we'll line em up on a deserted backroad!!
I really have no issue at all with street racing on deserted roads, where the only damage that can be done is to the people involved and their cars. It shouldn't even be a crime as far as I'm concerned.

It's the morons hitting tipple digit speeds in traffic, or driving like idiots in front of people's houses that are going to ruin it for everyone else, and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Personally, I've got too much to lose to participate in sort of street racing. I'll pay the race fees to the tracks up front instead of paying the courts, insurance agents, and lawyers after getting caught on the street.
 

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I really have no issue at all with street racing on deserted roads, where the only damage that can be done is to the people involved and their cars. It shouldn't even be a crime as far as I'm concerned.

It's the morons hitting tipple digit speeds in traffic, or driving like idiots in front of people's houses that are going to ruin it for everyone else, and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Personally, I've got too much to lose to participate in sort of street racing. I'll pay the race fees to the tracks up front instead of paying the courts, insurance agents, and lawyers after getting caught on the street.
Its pretty nice having a drag strip in your backyard, on Friday nights I can hear the track when I'm standing outside. Not much of a drive down here for you Carl.
 

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Its pretty nice having a drag strip in your backyard, on Friday nights I can hear the track when I'm standing outside. Not much of a drive down here for you Carl.
Yeah, but I don't drag race anymore. Open road racing and top speed events are my main focus. Haven't been to PMP for the road coarse because HPR isn't much further and it soooo much better. The rest of the stuff is 6-12 hours away, but even with the expense of going that far, it's still cheaper than getting busted on public highways.

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I really have no issue at all with street racing on deserted roads, where the only damage that can be done is to the people involved and their cars. It shouldn't even be a crime as far as I'm concerned.

It's the morons hitting tipple digit speeds in traffic, or driving like idiots in front of people's houses that are going to ruin it for everyone else, and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Personally, I've got too much to lose to participate in sort of street racing. I'll pay the race fees to the tracks up front instead of paying the courts, insurance agents, and lawyers after getting caught on the street.
I'm a product of the '60's, a small town in Ohio. We used to figure our races, put on our slicks at the local Maple and Forest Sohio station, after midnight on the weekends, and go out on Creamery road, line up and race. About 1/2 hour and we were done. Drive back into town and meet at the Sohio station, change our tires, go up to the 70-37 Truck stop (1/2 hour drive away) and have a burger. No money involved, just a good clean outlet for a group of car guys. The cops knew we did it and didn't bother us (until some self-rightous a$$hole called them to complain). We even had a State Patrolman in a '69 440 GTX that raced with us (he was off duty of course). Of course our cars were nothing like the ones of today. And the law was a lot more understanding. A lot more cars on the road now-a-days, though. Darn nice to grow up in that era.
 

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Yeah, but I don't drag race anymore. Open road racing and top speed events are my main focus. Haven't been to PMP for the road coarse because HPR isn't much further and it soooo much better. The rest of the stuff is 6-12 hours away, but even with the expense of going that far, it's still cheaper than getting busted on public highways.

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I think there's just something about racing on the streets for some guys, we lived in Winnemucca in the '90s and the Pony Express road race started about 80 miles away in Battle Mountain, that was cool.
 

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I'm a product of the '60's, a small town in Ohio. We used to figure our races, put on our slicks at the local Maple and Forest Sohio station, after midnight on the weekends, and go out on Creamery road, line up and race. About 1/2 hour and we were done. Drive back into town and meet at the Sohio station, change our tires, go up to the 70-37 Truck stop (1/2 hour drive away) and have a burger. No money involved, just a good clean outlet for a group of car guys. The cops knew we did it and didn't bother us (until some self-rightous a$$hole called them to complain). We even had a State Patrolman in a '69 440 GTX that raced with us (he was off duty of course). Of course our cars were nothing like the ones of today. And the law was a lot more understanding. A lot more cars on the road now-a-days, though. Darn nice to grow up in that era.
Growing up in Detroit, we raced four wide on Telegraph most weekends. Guys would trailer in their cars and run full slicks with race gas on the street. Cops were mixed in with traffic but didn't hassle anyone unless they were getting really stupid. We'd pull over in the strip malls, pop the hood and see where the real action was going to be later that night. There was a club that would go out and run for top speed on the interstate in the wee hours of the morning....I think one or two guys on the board here may have been involved in that.

ahhh, the good ol' days.
 

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I enjoyed street racing in the 80's, mid 90's my street cars were 10 second runners, I won lots of money. Then a friend rolled his 427 Fairlane and came out of the car and died. I started a family and decided to be safe and just stick to the track. BoostedGT from the show is one of our locals, and working at the track, I've seen the times it runs, incredible for a car with less than 350 cubes, and small tires.
 

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Sure there's the thirty minute info-mercial "how-to" shows, and some auction based stuff, but none of that involves actual enthusiasts building and racing their cars. We can either watch shows that are trying to sell parts that most people can't afford, or shows about people buying and selling cars as commodities.

I like to watch those shows but they do need a dose of reality they built a "cheap affordable off road Jeep" and proceed to sink 40 grand into it.
 
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