HI,
Wiped cam lobes has nothing to do with how long the cam has been on the shelf..its the break in... You need break in oil and extra zink additive. Be sure to us assembly lube, You should run the oil pump before first start up rotating the motor. then at first start up, be sure to run the motor to 2000 rpm for 20 mins. varying it to 3000 rpm in short intervals.
Whats the lift on that cam?
if its 30 over bore its not stock piston's. Balancing it would make it last longer...
what are you wanting to get out of the motor?

good luck take care be safe
tim

 

Hi ya Tim,

Lift is .543/.569
224/234 dur at .050
power band is 1500-5500


I've heard of wiped lobes following your break in specs precisely. I've suspected Chinese manufacture but it's difficult to track lately. So is after the fact operation, but I'd rather have parts that have been on the shelf for a decade or two as those are US made. yeah - I have trust issues...

This engine eBay purchase that was supposed to be "running" - it arrived with an oil pan that was rusted thru; wasn't pristine inside but it was all unmolested factory 1970 era castings. A couple weeks later a 1995 vintage 460 with forged stroker internals showed up and that one is a better use of time and money, but the car will need some upgrades that will cost as much as the engine. manual trans swap, maybe loose the straight axel, power steering, ya know, control. This way I can work on the upgrades and have a running engine.

 

HI,
WOW someone put a straight axle on a 69 Lincoln. That is going to take a lot of work to take back to regular suspension.
Yeah looks like good lift on the cam
I had a Lunati in my first build on my 460 almost like yours only I had D3 heads home ported. The lift was 5.16-5.43 It gave me 450 HP-TQ right off idle to like 5500 rpm's.. Moved my 5,000lb truck to a 14.5 sec. 1/4 mile.. I have now stroked it to a 545 still working on finishing it.

good luck take care be safe
tim

 

It's a Lincoln engine in a Model A

 

As noted in this updated post cam blanks are cast in Mexico by CWC Textron.

Cams, lifters and distributor gears. Rockwell hardness...

Over the course of the last month I have been gathering hardness data on the OEM cams and lifters, aftermarket cams and the lifters we have available. In addition we tested the distributor gears from original OEM distributors in both iron and steel and finally the aftermarket distributor gears...

www.460ford.com

There are no Chinese cams that I nor my cam grinder locally are aware of.

Lifters are another matter. See the thread.


Use a quality break in oil and gibbs grease on the cam lobes and lifter crowns. Not the red BS sent with the cams.

Add NOTHING to break in oil or a quality flat tappet formulated oil. We've seen cam break in failures when additional ZDDP products are added to quality purpose manufactured oils be it break in or flat tappet hot rod oils.


OEM style builder pistons do not offer 10.5 to 1 static c/r. They have a short CH and larger 22 cc dish. The OEM high compression pistons of the era were 11 cc's.

Double check your pistons, deck height and chambers to establish static c/r.









Scotty J. "AKA" The "Mad Porter"
"EMC 2006" 3rd place finisher
Ported BBF iron head specialist & Aluminum heads from all sources.
Custom ground cams
See our products in the Vendor for sale section
Customized crate engines
ParklandAutoMachine.com
R-H-P.biz
"Parkland Performance Auto Machine" Formerly RHP
(253)-988-6648
Parkland Auto Machine | Tacoma WA

 

Piston dish is listed at 13cc's according to the machine shop "about .010" off the deck and the heads;I was trying to stay under 11 to 1 compression for cast piston build.
It has run about 2 minutes and I had 1/2 gallon of trans fluid leaking out the bellhousing, trans has been repaired and ready to try again. Just have to brush off the frustration one more time.

 

Piston dish is listed at 13cc's according to the machine shop "about .010" off the deck and the heads;I was trying to stay under 11 to 1 compression for cast piston build.
It has run about 2 minutes and I had 1/2 gallon of trans fluid leaking out the bellhousing, trans has been repaired and ready to try again. Just have to brush off the frustration one more time.

The 3 OEM replacement pistons for the BBF are
88 to 92 at about 6 cc's
93 to end of production at about 15 cc's
68 to 87 at about 22 to 23 cc's.


For an iron headed pump gas build with that short cam timing it will be fussy on pump premium.

No intake heat and a 160* stat will help.

Did the shop list a part number for the piston?








Scotty J. "AKA" The "Mad Porter"
"EMC 2006" 3rd place finisher
Ported BBF iron head specialist & Aluminum heads from all sources.
Custom ground cams
See our products in the Vendor for sale section
Customized crate engines
ParklandAutoMachine.com
R-H-P.biz
"Parkland Performance Auto Machine" Formerly RHP
(253)-988-6648
Parkland Auto Machine | Tacoma WA

 

rut-ro 88-93 pistons. Clevite Part number 224-2880

I'm in Denver, so about 15 to maybe 20% loss due to density altitude.

It's got Royal Purple 10-30 break-in oil in it - should I change that?
and - what is a shorter oil filter than Fl-1-A? the bottom is pressed up against the frame rail. Maybe the engine might be cocked a little - driver side mounts are in but loose thus far - I didn't have that issue with the 1973 engine.

Thanks for stopping by Scotty!
OH, and while I've got you,, should I have that stroker crank Nitrided?

 

At your altitude that static c/r is not an issue.

I know we talked on the phone but I haven't a clue about what. Too many calls ago.

No on the nitriding.











Scotty J. "AKA" The "Mad Porter"
"EMC 2006" 3rd place finisher
Ported BBF iron head specialist & Aluminum heads from all sources.
Custom ground cams
See our products in the Vendor for sale section
Customized crate engines
ParklandAutoMachine.com
R-H-P.biz
"Parkland Performance Auto Machine" Formerly RHP
(253)-988-6648
Parkland Auto Machine | Tacoma WA

 

what is a shorter oil filter than Fl-1-A?

Ford used the FL300 for tight spaces. A crossover is the WIX 51068. Else, a 90° adapter or remote kit to use full-size or better filters.

 

I'll get both engine mounts in and tightened up, then see if the trans is pointed down the middle. I hope so, but I'll have a couple options. - I didn't think of the 90 deg, brilliant!

 

The 3 OEM replacement pistons for the BBF are
88 to 92 at about 6 cc's
93 to end of production at about 15 cc's ...

What is not mentioned is the piston compression height! 88-92 are 1.752, 93-97 are 1.772. With those '88-92 pistons being .020 further down the bore at TDC, that adds 5cc to the combustion volume. The '88-92 E7TEs heads have a 4-5cc larger chamber than the '93-97 F3TE heads, so that makes the TOTAL combustion chamber volume (and therefore compression ratio) the same.

 

we have DOVE heads on a 69/70 block, crank & rods. engine is out of a 69 Continental - unmolested. I thought that would be C9 casting heads; might be late 69 production

 

what is a shorter oil filter than Fl-1-A?

Motorcraft used to have a FL-300 -- a 1" shorter version of the FL-1A, originally developed for the 2.8L V-6 '74 Mustang II. BUT it has been discontinued. IIRC, a Fram PH 43 is the equivalent shorter version (and there may be others....)

 

Thanks cougrrcj!

 

Hi,
I would opt for ether the 90* or the remote set up ... I would want my HP motor to have all the filtering I could get. Not just go to a smaller filter..
Just my .02

take care be safe be good luck
tim

 

That short filter was also used on Police package 5.0 and 5.8 'Box' Crown Vics because those had an oil cooler adapter between the block and filter, and the longer FL1A would hit the steering box.

 

I've got an inquiry in for a 90 deg adaptor and a couple shorty Frams for the break-in. I'll hit it again tomorrow, trans mount, shifter cable, starter, driveshaft. sounds so simple,,,,,,,