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It's going in my truck that's about 6000 lbs
C6 auto
I believe it is the stock stall
Not sure
Street driven mostly
When that engine goes back together it will be 7.7 to 7.9 to 1.
You don't have a lot of options for cam timing that aren't going to kill the bottom end torque needed in your truck.

I generally use our 207 / 219 custom voodoo grind for this type of application. 110 lsa and advanced another 4* over straight up.

If your cylinder heads have OEM springs and umbrella seals you MUST keep lift at less than about .520"
In this case I would use the lower lift comp ex lobes OR a shelf 204 / 214 generic RV cam for lack of a better term.

The OEM cam timing for reference is 193 / 206 on a 113 in at 110 to 113 with a straight up timing set and 118 to 121 with the retarded set. Tolerance variation.
The performance EFI cam of the 90's was 204 / 216 on a 114 which was a good cam for the EFI and that crane grind was similar to the generic I listed.

A properly curved duraspark distributor is an important component.

DO NOT USE THE PERFORMER RPM. The performer is the correct intake here. Block or restrict cross over heat.

A 600 vac secondary properly tuned is more than enough carb.

We recently dyno'd a 1995 EFI take out with 190k miles. 476 tq and 312 hp using 500 cfm at 4100 rpm.



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Performer. Not Performer RPM, is what I read.
See the original post.




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Thanks for the input. I was thinking of putting an Edelbrock performer plus 2167 in it to keep it mild but still run nice, any thoughts on this cam? About carb, I have a fresh rebuilt Holley 600cfm that I can use, my friend told me that I should use a 750, so I can just use it. And so I shouldn't use the performer RPM, Is there a different intake you think I should run?
The performer plus cam is 194 / 204 which is little better than OEM. It sure the hell isn't worth nearly $400 for the kit.
OEM is 193 / 206.

If budget is of concern we use factory BB cores and regrind them or we keep the 204 / 214 generic cams in stock and pair them with the made in USA notched cam saver style Johnson lifters.

If your heads are still at the machine shop have them top the guides .080" and reduce diameter for PC seals.
This would allow for more lift using a generic spring package that is better than the OEM springs.



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Btw, nothing is built besides the heads being at the machine shop, the parts are on the shelf and a block on the stand. I can go any route from here with the right amount of cash.

Here is a link to an 87 octane D3 headed towing build we do. 530 torque and 420 ish hp with D3's and near 440 with the "Corrected" pro comps.
Feel free to use it as a guide.


With no port work and simply back cutting the intake and exhaust valves. The machinist will know. 27* BC
You can get about 390 ish hp.






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Custom grind is fine and all but I kinda just want to grab something.
That cam is a single pattern and is a no go for the BBF.

We have the 204 / 214 on a 112 on the shelf with USA made Johnson lifters notched to oil and aid in break in.
Can ship Monday or tuesday.






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How much would that be?
I get that budget is a consideration here.
Rock auto has the melling version of that cam kit with melling lifters here:



Our version of that kit has an engine pro cam and made in USA Johnson lifters notched to oil from the top down for break in. Think cam saver lifters.

Cam, lifters and gibbs grease $429.95 plus the ride.






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Would you personally recommend that melling cam and lifter kit? And what would your shipping be (just curious)? I don't know if I could do that much but I will see.
I really appreciate all your input
Here is the same kit on Summit with free shipping. Rock auto charges.




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